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I have interviewed The Dead and Living before
but they wanted get the chance again and of
course they got it. October 2019
I interviewed you in 2013 and now you've even
almost die ... tell me about it? Tell us a bit
about the You Tube video etc?
Coroner: Well! Thank you for the latest and
thanks for the opportunity to be here again.
You think of the Youtube clip on our remains
after the 2014 bus fire? Fortunately, that clip
does not exist. Everyone got out in time. But in
other circumstances or a few seconds later we
might not have had the opportunity to do this
interview. The glances from the firefighters and
crisis psychologists that the Red Cross sent in
direct response to the accident testified that
we had managed by quite small margins. The tour
bus caught fire in a tunnel and a similar
accident had occurred close in where the people
involved did not have the same luck as us. We
are now 15 people who have their own Final
Destination community. We write to each other on
October 25 every year and remember the day when
everything you take for granted could be moved
away in a second. Fortunately, we managed and
can release our third album on the same date
this year.
Why did you keep playing anyway?
-Coroner: We actually chose to finish the tour.
In addition to two canceled gigs in Italy as a
result of the accident, we played in dozens of
cities right after. However, the cities and
events are intertwined. I had hardly been able
to reproduce which tour stops it were before or
after the accident. We continued anyway. With
smoke-damaged clothing, equipment and even snuff.
It was only in London that we received a new
snuff delivery, which did not taste fire smoke.
I remember being fined at a hotel because they
thought I had smoked inside the room. But it was
in fact my hair that still secreted burnt
plastic to the extent that other guests
complained and reported to the front desk.
Last time I compared you to Rammstein, Thåström
and even Depeche Mode but now I think you can
add Sisters of Mercy… .is it tiring with all
comparisons or are you proud that someone
compares you to these bands?
-Coroner: It's all right. If you go back even
more then you can add Laibach, Nick Cave and Joy
Division. Everything has an origin. It's a bit
like I think in research. Nothing can come from
nowhere. Everything needs to be derived from a
source.
What do you want to be compared to if you have
to be it?
-Coroner: I think you have to compare us to what
you want in principle. Hopefully you will find
some kind of authenticity in The Dead And Living,
that it's not just for that.
What about live shows nowadays, will there be
any and do you play a lot abroad?
-Coroner: In connection with the album release
we do release gig in Tønsberg in Norway 25/10
and Karlstad in Sweden 26/10. After that it will
be a gig in Oslo and then explore the terrain in
Europe. With a view to some international gig
and summer festivals 2020.
Last time you thought there were too few Amish
people at the concerts ... have it been better?
-Coroner: Haha. Unfortunately, there has been no
stop in Pennsylvania yet. But we're working on
it. As people become more environmentally
conscious, however, one can hope that there will
be some kind of amish epidemic, which will
hopefully resonate with our music.
Do you have any new Swedish favorite bands that
are worth mentioning… always fun to hear some
new names?
-Coroner: I'm glad you ask. I would like to
highlight the Brother Danielska that is
happening in Gothenburg's underground scene
right now. With bands like Beverly Kills, Agent
Blå, Linn Koch-Emmery. True Moon is also a bunch
that suits me completely.
Then we have a whole pile of good bands in
Värmland where we come from. Robert, who sings
in Incarnit, is a guest on our new album, which
is released by Johan Carlsson on Sparzanza's
company. Värmland also has Eyes Wide Open,
Unfound Reliance, Damien, Lycanthropy, The
Generals, Knogjärn, SkallBank etc etc etc. I
also think some in Mister Misery are from here.
They have a pretty direct approach and I think
you should keep an eye on them. As well as
Darkest July, which is admittedly quite
underground, but which personally pleases me a
lot. Unfortunately, of course, I cannot name
everyone. But it has been talked about that it
has been boiling in Värmland for a while and I
think it is now that it really happens.
Have the lyrics changed their direction somewhat
now or is it still Poe, Crowley etc that are
insipiring?
-Coroner: For my part, there is probably some
song historically, which has a little Crowley in
it. Otherwise, it was probably our former
guitarist and songwriter Manny who picked up a
lot of Crowley and Poe.
I have had some kind of relationship with red
wine where together we spin ourselves into
different themes and formulations. For me,
copywriting is a necessary expression and I very
much romanticize both our history and our
contemporary with The Dead And Living, as some
kind of puny punk offspring in a rather bleak
world. I no longer think that we are an
antithesis to the sugary sweetness in society,
but more and more think that our music becomes
some kind of fair image of society and the
nature of darkness.
Is there anything you would never write about?
Can you imagine writing something political?
-Coroner: Hmm. I do not know. If there is no
point in writing something, I avoid it. I also
do not like to write for obvious things. It is
preferable to find a somewhat untidy theme,
which either touches or starts the thoughts.
Our music is totally unpolitical. In The Dead
And Living sphere, the nature of things,
nihilism and human destructiveness are higher
than isms and political lines. We are probably
for some kind of justice, but otherwise quite
cynical.
Are there any political bands that you like and
that do it well?
-Coroner: I used to be pretty fascinated by the
punk and bands with meter-long political texts
that you had to read books to understand what
they were about. While loving the Ramones, who
were far more straightforward and conservative.
We are probably all quite open to the fact that
people think different, major societal problems
are complex to solve and that everything is not
black or white. I'm probably a mix between
Watain's death-to-all rhetoric, Leonard Cohen's
romantic darkness and Bob Geldof's Save The
World. I also believe that we humans are far
more complicated and interchangeable than the
political landscape allows.
I asked if you could be influenced by music, did
anyone come up to you and say that they were in
any way influenced by your music at some time?
-Coroner: Our Norwegian fan club president has
tattooed his back with our motives. He believes
that he is bringing The Dead And Living down to
the grave.
Our Finnish counterpart once wrote that we
represent everything she is: Strange, neurotic
and slightly alcoholic ... and that if she had a
heart we would have stolen it forever.
This is how you deal with it.
Are you satisfied with the new album. The
Author's Curse ... how did you come up with the
name?
-Coroner: As with many texts and titles,
something just came to me. “The end is the
author's words. The ending is the author's
course. " I have to blame the red wine again.
At the same time, it has felt a bit like a curse
to work on this record, which took 4-5 years to
complete and release. However, I hope that the
time that has passed and the work we put into it
will pay off. It's not a half release just
because, but something we put in some time and
soul into.
Tell me a little about how it grew, how you work
in the studio, etc. Are all the songs ready when
you come to the studio?
-Coroner: This particular record took a long
time to complete. As with the previous release,
the singles we released in connection with the
European tour together with Deathstars, so
writing began in Stockholm. We had some sketches
and ideas for songs that I worked on with Mikael
Cederberg, a friend of ours. We sat in his
studio in Årsta in 2015 with, aNetherbird as
neighbors. For me, the industrial area in which
the studio is located is a creative environment
that is perfect for The Dead And Living.
I then sat in my apartment at the top of the
hill at Stadshagen and worked with the songs.
You see the whole of Stockholm from there. At
night it was fantastic. I looked out over
Kungsholmen, City and Södermalm and initially
thought that "City of the Light" would be about
Stockholm. With that, a tribute was finally made
to the hometown of Karlstad.
Similarly, production was continued to Karlstad.
By that point, most of it was finished, while
the details were polished during the actual
recording. We recorded the drums at Leon Music
Studios. Guitar, bass and vocals at E&S Music.
Mikael and I drank peppermint vodka and
continued working with the song in the middle of
high summer 2016.
Gustav Ydenius, who otherwise sat in Leon Music
Studios, mixed and mastered the record remotely.
We met every now and then and did the last. It
was my first time working with a mix of a record
in a café environment. You hardly think it's
possible. Gustav also put a lot of his own mark
on the record. I remember texting at some point
and asking where he found the sampled whale song
on "The Rope". Gustav replied that it was not
whales who sang, it was he who got the feeling
and sang stuff on the song. I think we met in a
rule-free creative process that shaped the
project even in
the mix mode. 10,000 hours and 200 tracks
later, the record was completed and on October
25, we release it and hands it over to the
public.
This time it's just vinyl or, why? Is it
important to get out the record physically?
-Coroner: We wanted to make a vinyl this time.
In addition to the streaming services. The
physical product is absolutely important and
with the vinyl format you can really maximize
the physical experience of the record.
Right now, some people think it's a shame that
the record is not on CD. But for us, the focus
has been vinyl and streaming this time. If you
want a CD, you can burn from iTunes. We are not
very concerned with how the industry has changed
in recent decades. No more focused on making
good music and playing live to the extent we can.
If there is a great demand for eg CD, we will of
course release a CD. However, at times it can be
a bit difficult to satisfy all format requests.
If it is not large quantities. We have, like
others,
holes to fill.
The latest record you bought yourself? Do you
exchange a lot with other bands etc?
-Coroner: I actually buy quite a lot of music
still. Most on vinyl nowadays. It was a long
time since I bought something on CD. Then I buy
some digital, partly to be able to DJ without
Spotify and partly to support.
The latest purchase was Your Man by Leonard
Cohen on vinyl and a 7
with Ebba Grön and RymdImperiet. I
replenish a little with such things as I imagine
that I want it to the pension.
The last bit more luxurious purchase was a white
label promo by Sisters of Mercys Floodland and
that I buy myself up on the limited editions of
Thåström's latest records.
Right. I ordered Deaf Rat's new LP Ban The Light
as well. They are awesome! Frankie, their singer
has promised to buy our latest. So I'm outing
him here to make sure of the change.
How do you feel Sweden has become after the last
election? Or do you not care about politics at
all?
-Coroner: I don't know. We care enough. But we
offer no solution to the world's problems. We
are more documentary. Depicts the world and the
universe we live in and looks more at the laws
of nature and the great darkness.
Regardless of who wins the next election, all of
Sweden will be swallowed up by a black hole,
which will then be swallowed up by other black
holes, until black holes in themselves become
weathered. Until nothing will happen and that it
will continue to not happen forever. At least
that's what the researchers think ... and I
suddenly feel the urge to drink red wine and
write music. While you can.
If you got the chance to become prime minister
for a month, what was the first thing you would
change?
-Coroner: I would probably change this question
and have to deal with something completely
different question.
What are the plans for the band in the near
future?
-Coroner: We released the first single "City of
the Light" on Friday, September 13th. The next
single will be on October 18th. And then the
album October 25th. In addition, we have plans
for new material and also the release of
previous material, which we are very tagged on.
Which is the band that got you started playing
music once in back in time, when you thought
this is what I want to do as well?
-Coroner: I
came in through the grunge. Nirvana and
Soundgarden were the house gods in middle school.
So I have certainly picked some of the departure
from there. Mixed with the DIY culture of punk.
Nowadays, you may well feel that Rammstein is a
pretty good model for how to do just about
everything. Both artistic and scenic.
Tell us a little about today's members… past
bands, jobs, interests etc?
-Coroner: Me, Gravedigger and Janitor started
the project around 2007 and our drummer Vincent
joined in 2009. We had grown tired of the punk
scene we were in and thought we had stagnated a
bit. The Dead And Living became a creative
platform for testing new ideas outside the
framework. Janitor is on vacation from the band,
but we hope he comes back. The latest addition
is our new guitar virtuoso Salem.
Salem lives and breathes music 24/7. He runs
sound and light for various productions. Plugs
music and follows us, Children of the Sün and
Nephila.
Vincent is basically an environmental scientist
and works with environmental protection in the
real estate industry.
Gravedigger is one that sits with headphones and
sunglasses indoors and code for websites for
various authorities. A bit like in The Matrix I
imagine.
I myself work with music industry development in
Värmland at Studiefrämjandet.
Now you are 6 years older than the last
interview… .has much changed in life these
years?
-Coroner: The day after you turn 30,
everything in the body becomes worser. So
that kind of ... weathering is definitely up and
running. Suddenly, people are also managers of
different things and children are starting to
come into the picture. So, not everything is as
it used to be. At the same time, we have greater
opportunities to make fatter stuff nowadays. The
fact that we have been building this band for
more than 10 years actually makes everything
just easier.
What do you want to say to your fans?
-Coroner: The Author's Curse is released October
25. We are an interactive band. Write to us. We
write back. Talk to clubs in your city. We hope
to meet as many of you as possible in connection
with this album. A big thank you to our fan
clubs in Norway, Finland, England, France,
Belgium, Hungary and more.
What do you want to say to those who haven't
heard and should become your new fans?
-Coroner: Come on! It will be fun afterwards.
Words of wisdom like this in the end?
-Coroner: It's pretty depressing times we live
in. Nothing survives, not even the universe. So
take the opportunity to do fun things.
Something to add?
-Coroner: Last tour we had 48 beers on the rider
every day. 48 beers x 40 gig = 1920 beers. So we
must have drunk at least 382 beers each, in
addition to what we drank in various bars in
Europe. We needed a break. But now we are
charged to drink with you again. Wherever you
are. The future is Dead.
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