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When you think about that if you take three guys
from Staf and add up their ages, I'm still
older, but music has no age and preferably not
good music. Staf storms forward like Oasis with
a pair of brothers, but now it is not the
Gallagher brothers but the Staf brothers who
make up 2/5 of the rock group Staf. With a
digital record in their back pocket they
released a few months ago Alla änglar är döda
and this is a group that has the future ahead of
them. It is Sebastian who answers the questions
one day at the end of March-2026
Tell us a little about when you met and why you
decided to form a rock group?
-The band consists of me and my little brother
Jonathan, so he and I have been "forced" to get
to know each other. We didn't really have a
choice. He and I have always liked rock music
and played together since we were little and
learned to play together. From the beginning it
was just the two of us, but then we realized
that we needed another member. Waldemar went to
the same school as me and Jonathan, but one
grade below Jonathan (and two for me), we saw
that he wore bandshirts with bands we liked and
then we saw that he played guitar too. After he
played with us once, we became very good friends
and asked if he wanted to join. Benjamin was in
the same class as his brother in high school,
and we were looking for a guy who would do
synths. Then it was bonus points that he had a
driver's license too, of course! Alfred (who is
now in the military) we got to know through
skateboarding I think, and we needed a bass
player for the band so he could join (even
though he was actually a guitarist). Now he's in
the military so our friend Alex plays with us
instead, he's actually from Östersund but moved
down here to study. He had booked us for a gig
up in Östersund and became good friends at an
afterparty up there. After that we kept in touch
and then we found out that he was moving down to
Gothenburg around the same time as Alfred went
to the military service, so that was perfect.
Tell me a little about each member, instrument,
age, if you have other bands on the side etc
etc?
-I (Sebastian Staf) am 20 years old (2005) and
play guitar and sing, or do my best anyway. My
brother is 19 (born 2006) and plays drums. Walle
is 19 (2007) and plays lead guitar, Benjamin is
19 (2006) and Alex is 20 (2005). My brother
sings in another band that changes band names as
often as you change underwear, but they are
actually very good. Very Primal Scream, Chemical
Brothers inspired. I think Walle has started
jamming with them lately but those guys are so
unclear so I don't really know. Benjamin sings
and plays guitar in his own band Respit, a newly
formed indie-pop band. Me and the others in the
band used to go and watch them to tease Benja,
but now they've become so good that we can no
longer do it. He sings well, sounds exactly like
his father (David Urwitz). Alex has started with
some weird boy band but I don't really know, it
seems fun. Personally, I'm only doing with Staf
right now, it's way too much otherwise.
You are quite young, is that an advantage do you
think?
-Yes, I would probably say so, at least the age
we are in now. Now we can play in bars and clubs
and still be so young that it still feels
exciting. I actually think we were too young
when we started, to be taken seriously, but
after all the years we've played, people are
probably starting to understand. At the same
time, it's good to start as early as we did, to
be able to build real relationships with those
who listen and then have a few years on your
neck without being old and wrinkled.
Is it so that many young people don't start
bands today or is it a common phenomenon today?
-It probably depends on which circles you are
in. The way I understand it, there are many more
people who start bands now than there were a few
years ago, but it can also have to do with the
people I hang out with. It feels like live music
and bands as a concept are starting to come back
now, almost like a backlash to digitalization
and the lack of a community.
I've listened a lot to a podcast called Den
Vingliga Vägen hem and there Jönsson from
Attentat participates, and he has always been
passionate about you, does it mean a lot when an
old rock guy like Jönsson praises you?
-Fun! It's a fun podcast. Yes, I have understood
that, and it is great fun. He is a legend in
Swedish punk and Gothenburg and it is very fun
that he likes us, because we love Attentat! So
it means a lot, especially when it feels a
little unexpected that he will like the music we
do. I actually remember him once telling me that
he thought our early stuff was bad, but that he
liked what came after. But really it doesn't
matter so much if someone likes the music we
make or not, we don't write the music for
others, but for ourselves. Because I feel that I
have to write about something, or because we
want to make good music together. The fact that
other people like what we like is a plus.
How have the reviews been otherwise?
-They have been very good, the reviewers usually
like our music much more than we like our songs.
We get tired of our songs after a maximum of two
weeks. However, many people seem to have a hard
time letting go of our age, which is sad because
it's the music you should focus on and not how
old we are. Music is something that should erase
such boundaries, I think. However, it was a guy
who reviewed the latest album and found some
really deep meaning in the song "Ingen vill va"
that we hadn't even thought of ourselves. That
song was actually a parody of all the "Kent
copies" that almost compete to see who can make
the most depressing music. But it was kind of
funny that someone can find such depth in it!
It's hard to compare you with anything else but
which bands have you heard comparisons with?
-Thank you! We try to sound as own as possible
and create our own sound. Ironically we have
been compared to Kent, which is fun because Kent
is good but we hate that so many new bands just
try to sound like them all the time. There has
been some wave of Swedish alternative music
where everyone tries to sound like Kent, and
it's a bit boring. We have also been compared to
Radiohead, which is a shame because we hate
Radiohead... Then we've also heard that we sound
like Imperiet and The Cure, which feels a little
more reasonable. Personally, I'm very inspired
by Nick Cave, The Cure, Bauhaus and such. But
Tom Waits, too, loves Tom Waits.
You have done a record before, Håll truten
borgarunge but it doesn't exist physically or?
No thoughts in that case of letting it go
physically as well?
-No, exactly! Unfortunately, it does not exist
physically even though we previously had
thoughts of releasing it physically, but do not
think we will do so in the near future. We are
quite tired of it and think it sucks a little.
But if there is demand, we will see what we can
solve!
The title of that record has surely stirred up
emotions or how is it? What do you mean by the
title?
-You can
say that it did. The title "Shut the Trout
Bourgeois Kid" is also the name of the first
track and the lead single to the album, and the
name of it ironically comes from when some crust
punks yelled it at us during our second gig ever
(fFaggelberget 2022 if I remember correctly).
They didn ́t think we were punk because we didn
́t just stud and had spiky hair. Which is a
little bit weird because punk is about being
able to express yourself freely and not let
yourself be boxed in by any rules (like that you
have to dress in a certain way). We thought it
sounded good and chose to write a song about it,
which among other things is about, then we felt
that it was a good name for the album as it
conveyed what we wanted with the whole album. To
show where we stood politically and give a
finger to people who think they are above you.
You are not better than someone else just
because you have different financial conditions
or something else.
The new record is called "Alla änglar är döda"
and it sounds good for a GAIS-fan like me What
was the idea with that title?
-Hahaha! Jönsson talked about that too, but the
title actually has nothing to do with Swedish
football or Blåvitt. It's a line from the song
"Amor" that we thought sounded good as the title
for the album, which is a pretty dark and gray
record that is a lot about hopelessness. The
songs are very much about broken hearts, mental
illness and hopelessness in a society that
oppresses you. We thought that the line summed
up the album well, that "All angels are dead"
can be perceived as that the hope you have is
gone and there is no one left by your side. It
signals hopelessness as well.
Who does the lyrics and what inspires?
-I'm the one who writes the lyrics. Often I
write the lyrics before the music is created,
the music comes naturally after I write. The
lyrics often come from what I myself experience,
see and feel. Sometimes it can be that I want to
tell a story, but often it's mostly about me
having to get something out of my body that I
just have to say. Writing is my best way to
express myself, I've never been good at it
verbally so often my thoughts are written down.
You have named the band after your last name,
was there a lot of discussion before you decided
on that name?
-Actually, not at all. When me and my brother
started a band it was almost obvious that we
would be called Staf, Van Halen named his band
after himself so why shouldn't we? There was a
while when I wanted to change the band name but
the others in the band actually said abruptly
no, so we're still called Staf!
You had a gig at a secret place in Mölndal last
year that Foggy Days organized, was it a fun
experience, tell us a little?
-Exactly! It was an incredibly fun experience
and a perfect way to round off the year. It was
fun to have it in a secret place, which was then
in the "Catacombs" in Kvarnbyn. The venue was
perfect for the atmosphere we wanted, it was
dark, lit with lots of candlelight, underground
and incredibly intimate. We also managed to
squeeze an unexpected amount of people into the
room so it was packed to the brim, which was
really fun. We chose to do a semi-acoustic set,
and then we got the chance to rework our songs
in a completely different way than we could do
before. Now we could give the songs a completely
different structure than they had before. It was
also fun to have so much freedom in how the
whole event should be, everything from the
lighting, the decoration and the soundscape to
how we wanted the audience to be placed and how
everything was marketed. Then Ebbot Lundberg and
Jossy showed up as guest artists. Jossy is an
incredibly talented singer and songwriter and it
was great to work with her and have her on one
of our songs (Inatt). Playing live with Ebbot
was a bit like a dream come true for all the
members, we are all big fans of both TSOOL and
Union Carbide and improvising an extended
version of "Nevermore" is something that we will
never forget.
Do you only have a young audience or do you come
old men like me to the gigs too?
-From the beginning we mostly only had a young
audience but lately we have also managed to
attract a slightly older audience as well, which
is really fun!
Releasing a vinyl, how was the feeling?
-Incredibly fun! It's not a matter of course
that you do it nowadays, with the digitization
of everything. It's really cool to have
something you've created physically printed, so
that you really have something to leave behind
and a kind of receipt that you've done
something.
Do you buy records yourself or is it just for
old bumps?
-We are all real vinyl maniacs! Without a doubt
the best way to listen to music I think.
How do you listen to music yourself, is it
Spotify or how do you listen?
-When I'm at home it's often via my vinyls, it's
the best sound that way and it's a completely
different feeling. But when I'm not at home,
it's unfortunately Spotify. But you can't have
an everyday life without music, it's not
possible, so you have to listen via Spotify.
Playing live, what's the best thing about it?
-Everything! Playing together is fun in itself,
but to do it in front of people dancing and
singing along is a whole other level. It becomes
such a community and it's fun to do everything
in real time, if something goes wrong you just
have to make the best of the situation. It's fun
to give the audience a chance to interact with
the music they listen to. Live music is
everything!
What is the strangest thing that has happened
during a gig with you?
-Oh, I don't really know. Some strange things
have happened, both from our side and the
audience, but also technically. It has happened
that some of us almost fainted on stage due to
the heat or other factors. It has happened that
couples stand and make out during the entire set
at the front, even during the least romantic
songs, it's a bit odd. Once a sound engineer
turned off our sound after 4 songs because he
thought we had played too long, we were just
under a quarter of an hour into the set and we
had half an hour set, I just think he didn't
like us...
On Discogs it says that you play punk but that
is not really true but you were a little bit
punkier on the first "record" or how was it?
-No, that's not really true, we have been
classified as punk which is not really true.
It's probably that people think it is for lack
of any other genre to describe us as. We
have never really been a punkband either, except
that we are very clearly political, but you
should be that regardless. Our music is closer
to post-punk maybe but it ́s not really that
either. The first record is a little bit punkier,
because it's faster and rawer but it's not that
punky either.
How would you describe your music in three
words?
-Oh, it's hard, it doesn't really work but I'll
try. "Really fucking good"? Dark, different and
interesting? I don't really know, we are quite a
lot of things so it's hard to use just three
words haha.
How else do you think it's to live and work in
Sweden?
-It's still pleasant, this is where you have
your friends and all the connections. I love
Gothenburg and I am happy to have grown up here.
You have it, despite all the problems that exist
in the country, it is after all good here
compared to how you can have it in other
countries. That said, there is a lot that Sweden
needs to improve on and Sweden is far from a
perfect country.
Music and politics, does it belong together, do
you have any really political song?
-Music is political, you can't get away from
that. Culture is political. Art is political.
Art is questioning and one of many reasons why
it is so important. Without art, people would
all fall into the same ranks and become
increasingly sheep-like creatures without an
individual thinking. We have some political
songs that are clearly political, especially on
the first album with " Stäng truten borgarunge "
and "Ett vanligt land". Then all our songs have
political messages, but a little more subtle.
Life is political, so it is part of it becoming
political if you sing about life. Everything can
be linked to something political. An example is
perhaps "... som idioter".
Is there any really good bands in Sweden that
you can recommend?
-Yes, definitely! The Family Men from Gothenburg
are without a doubt among the heaviest and most
interesting bands that have emerged lately. Very
industrial and heavy. Then I also like the punk
band Deppa from Umeå, they are awesome! Then I
think that Diset from Stockholm is spot on in
what they do.
Ten favorite records all time?
-Oh damn how hard. There are so many good things
but I'll try. List them below.
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds-Henry’s Dream
Depeche Mode- Songs of Faith and Devotion
Munly J Munly- Jimmy Carter Syndrome
Tom Waits- Rain Dogs
The Rolling Stones- Let it Bleed
The Cure- Disintegration
The Birthday Party- Junkyard
Einstürzende Neubauten- Haus der lüge
Hurula- Vi är människorna våra föräldrar varnade
oss för
Lars Winnerbäck-Kom
Futureplans for the band?
-At the moment we have mostly planned to gig a
lot and go on as we have done, we just released
the album physically so we hope to be able to
tour with it for a while longer!
For yourself?
-The band!
Words of wisdom?
-I have absolutely nothing to say, everything I
say is mostly so if I say something it's best to
filter it out and see it as a noise in your
ears.
Something to add?
-No, thanks for the questions, have a nice time! |