Not at all confused when it comes to Rille/Kenny, but here is an interview with those who write in the Second Class Kids Records fanzine, which has so far come out with four issues. Well written and nice. May 2023

Most people in Punk Sweden probably know who you are already, but not everyone is so enlightened. Tell us a little about yourselves? Jobs otherwise? Age, do you play in any band, former fanzines etc etc?

Rille: My name is Rille Bengtsson but I'm just as often called Kenny Sörberg. This summer I'm turning 43 and I'm working as a primary school at an elementary school in Bergsjön. My interests are listening to trallpunk and ballads, watching football and SHL, record collecting and record multiplicing, Galenskaparna & After Shave and Kalle Sändare, reading books and fanzines, drinking coffee and light beer, watching Beck films with scripts by Rolf Börjlind, as well as shouting and making a mess. I have antisocial traits (love to be by myself) and appreciate a high measure of personal freedom, but try to compensate for it by always thinking collectively politically. Me and a good friend have a band called Jag visade släkten på kukmiddgaen. We do covers, as the band name suggests. In addition to SCKM, me and the guy named André make a fanzine called Halvdan Permanent. Previous fanzines: Trall-Metall, Trall-Medalj, Drömmen Om Min Svågers Radhus, Din Mun Svarar Nej Men Dina Ögon Svarar Jag, Stå Upp!, Krig, Slips, Kaffe, Deutschland Deutschland, Gaycastle, and Meningsfullt Skryt. 

Micke: As a person, I like to be quite incognito, so people are welcome to know about me but not take a look at the city, it's fine as long as my better half is not involved. Age has crept up towards a football half, may well run another but any overtime is not important. I have played in various bands before but now I only do different solo projects, including Sjutti-sju which is Bajen-related, Depraverad is my ska / punk project and Brigade 77 where I do Irish with a focus on rebel music. On the fanzine front, I've done Skynda Långsamt, Tragedi Fanzine, Sprit and Schizo Fanzine. Now I only do reviews on tragedypunk.home.blog in addition to Second Class Kids Magazine ie. Yes, I also write a lot about all kinds of music on www.efolket.eu So with more than 30 years in punk, it has become a part both high and low.

I know you Micke likes Hammarby, do you have Rille any favorite team in football too or do you don´t give a damn about it?
Rille: Damn, yes. Like many other Swedish Anglophiles who brought Tipsextra with their breast milk, I follow the Premier League meticulously and my favorite team is Manchester United. The explanation is simple: in the early 90s, I fell head over heels for Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs (that the latter would later have x number of intercourse with his brother's wife and also turn out to be a women's boxer I might not have imagined then and there), and what strictly rationally should have stopped at a youthful rapture of course developed into inexplicable lifelong love (and in later years even suffering, post-Fergie). In domestic football, Kalmar FF is the rule and for geographical reasons since I was born and raised on Öland. However, it took a few years before the marriage became a fact because Kalmar FF was the main competitor to the Öland team (Färjestadens GoIF) that I for many years as a happy boy flush wearing short pants represented. At the end of high school, I started standing in the homesupprotersat Fredriksskans and when I left my home region a few years later, both the interest and love for the team was accentuated. The climax was of course when our red brothers in 2008 took their first and only Swedish Championship gold ever. I was there at the gold match in Halmstad and the feeling of running onto Örjans Vall's lawn when the final whistle sounded I carry with me for the rest of my life. I have had two sons since then, but even their births stand up in comparison.

Micke: Like Hammarby is an understatement, when Bajen plays is the only time I leave my introverted side. I think it is necessary. Overall, I think Rille cares more about football than I do. Sure, I follow Hammarby and Celtic but he is an oracle on the subject. On the other hand, I have damn good track of EM 88, but do not remember who won either the European Championship or the World Cup last. 

How did you start writing for Second Class Magazine, did Per pay you so well?

Rille: Like this: I've turned down both private invitations abroad and professional career services that would give me a 25% raise, but when someone asks me to do something scene-related, I find it extremely difficult to say no. I know it means so much to so many and I am well aware of how much it has meant to me. Pelle was also a friend from the past (you know, one of those idiit who sabotages and destroys) and this was a way to further support his charitable record release of Swedish melodic punk. As cream on the cake, I myself had begun to wonder if it was not high time to take up writing again in at least some form.

Micke: I've been making fanzines since 1995 but all my projects were on hold so when the train came, I just jumped on. We have signed personal contracts so compensation should not go into but right now we are working hard for collective agreements, holiday pay and since we (Rille and I) do not have any kids, we will have to see if it is possible to vabba in some other way. The Bajen Party wants to introduce COHB Care Of Hungover Bajare, something similar would have been interesting.

Micke nu

In the beginning, it was really only SCK bands that were in the magazine, but now in issue four it has developed a little, will it continue to be so or was it just a one-time event?

Rille: The idea is absolutely that it will continue to be an unconditional intake of bands to spin in depth, but personally I have had a bit of a hard time letting go of the old track because I interviewed Björnarna in #4 and will interview Varnagel in #5.

Micke: Number four felt like a real development and we continue on the same track now. We are probably more or less already clear about what the next issue will look like in terms of content and it will be awesome. 

You have been in the wonderful world of punk for a long time, when and how did you start with punk and how did it come about?

Rille: I think I was nine years old when we visited my father's youth friend's family in Växjö. The son in the family who was five or six years older than me played Ebba Grön's "Samlade singlar" and I was of course fascinated by song titles like "Tyst för fan", but I didn't find the music itself that interesting. The same year, Magnus Uggla released his monumentally fantastic album "35-åringen" where he heckled absolutely everything and everyone, swore fresh and wrote about "expensive aunts who fucked up diamonds". I loved the music and thought the lyrics felt wonderfully rebellious. And a little forbidden; I remember that my mom came into my boy's room a few times and admonished that the songs were certainly very musically well-made, but that I really shouldn't listen to lyrics like that, haha. Two years later I was mature enough to start listening to Ebba Grön and also appreciate the music itself. In sixth grade, someone told me about KSMB and then when I started high school in 1993, it was teeming with people listening to Asta Kask and Strebers, and thus the snowball was in full swing. However, one memory stands out. One day, a classmate played a recorded cassette tape given to him by one of the school's uniformed punks. What I was told completely knocked me out. Fast rattling drums, melodies that immediately sat down, real sing-along choruses to rattle along to, lyrics that were both smart and funny – spiced with a playfulness that I never thought could be combined with cool punk. That record changed my life and I still think it's the best thing that's ever been made. De lyckliga Kompisarnas' "Le som en fotomodell" is not a record, it's more like a religion. Pretty quickly I also came in contact with fanzines and then I started buying cassette demos at a fast pace. I was attracted by both punk's cool expression and the underground scene's warm community. Punk helped me understand how society works and the Do It Yourself culture helped me understand how to relate to it.

Micke: My first gig was Mera Hitlåtar i Handen in 1992. Like so many others, I got into it through my older brother, or yes, maybe not so many people found punk through my brother, but I think many can relate to an older sibling. In the autumn of 93, me and some friends formed the band Pass Out and in 95 we started Skynda Långsamt Mag then it has just rolled on. 

How do you think punk has changed over the years?

Rille: Difficult question. The most noticeable difference is that the Internet has made it easier – but also more boring – to find new bands. Call me an old filly, but I fucking miss the chance purchases that you made in the 90s. You know, Kamel-Stephan wrote up some spiteful description in the Birdnest catalogue of how the band sounded – and then they ordered the record and hoped for the best. We need to get back to this, but I haven't really sketched out exactly how we're going to go about it.

Micke: Trallpunk has gotten better, the average age higher, the hairs fewer and grayer (except on the editor-in-chief). It is clear that the digital development has done a lot for better or worse. Bands and audiences have become closer to each other, which is fun. 

This with dividing punk into different styles with crustpunk, 77-punk, trallpunk etc etc is a way for us who write about the music to get people to understand approximately what style it is on what we review, do you see a lot of contradictions when you are out between these different styles?

Rille: I think the genre division is good and represents an admittedly small but oh so important component in making the world a little more understandable. The contradictions were probably pretty much a fanzine thing at the time. Some of the crustfanzines wrote contemptuously about the wimpy trallpunk that was not tough enough to be worthy of being part of the hard punk family and we trallpunks unfortunately reacted emotionally instead of doing the dry psychological analysis that the mash punks needed a pink pillow and some candy. And let the TV down, as they said at the time.

Micke: As you say, when you review, it's quite nice to be able to write what it's actually about. I don't think these old contradictions exist anymore, if they ever existed. It's probably mostly sometimes like some tired types who were in 77 and who haven't been active since then who pop up from time to time and will tell you what "real" punk is. On the other hand, I would like a little more Bollnäspunken, a little more Augustibuller, so a little more mix of bands. Now it feels like the different genres are on their own edge. Although Fragile Mountain does something really cool, I must say.

What punk style is your favorite style?

Rille: Trallpunk. I thank higher powers that Mart Hällgren was born into this world and that he happened to become who he is. I also like some Swedish skate punk from the 90s (Adhesive, Satanic Surfers, Venerea, Randy, It's No Juice, Fudge Wax and Passage 4) and a handful of four-stroke bands (Hyrda Knektar, En Svensk Tiger, Strindbergs, Ebba Grön and early KSMB).

Micke: When it comes to punk, I'm probably broader than Rille and probably can't choose a particular style as a favorite. I get started just as much on feel as on trallpunk, or skapunk and skate punk as much as on Oi and grindcore. But what spins the most here at home is probably trallpunk and street punk as well as various hardcore.

Which bands in Sweden do you think are most interesting right now?

Rille: 1. Katten Skogman's Orchestra. Singer/songwriter from Stockholm with twisted and thoughtfully funny lyrics. A bit like a more musical Ola Aurell with fewer immediate comic points (however, I want to point out that I also love Ola Aurell).

2. Euskefeurat. Is and remains one of the country's best and most important bands. Never forget that if a wall were built around the customs in Stockholm, there would be significantly more scratch marks on the inside than on the outside.

3. Björnarna. Brutally good trallpunk.

Micke: Kardinal Synd and Norra Hospitalet. 

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What is the oddest thing that you like and listen to and that no one thinks you listen to?

Rille: People who got to know me as an adult may not know that I still listen a lot to music that I loved when I was a child. 1988-1989 my interest in music listening really took off and then a bunch of albums were released that I still think are really good:

Freda´ – Tusen eldar
Mauro Scocco – S/T
So What – Face yourself
Orup – 2
Sha-Boom – R.O.C.K.
Ratata – Människor under molnen

Micke: Outside of punk? In that case, it will have to be Russian eurodisco, like Tatu, their debut album when they sing in Russian is terribly good. Another Russian group from the early 00's is Propaganda, their song Melom is crazy good, listen themselves https://youtu.be/vcjYxaX8YgY

Making the Second Class magazine is a favor I can think considering that it is so nicely made with A4 and in colour. Is it something you've always dreamed of doing?

Rille: No, the design itself leaves me cold. But it's always a blast to make fanzines.

Micke: I can't say it's something I've dreamed of, but it's great that the fanizne reaches out well, I think anyway. Had Second Class Magazine been cut and paste and copied surreptitiously at someone's workplace, it would have been just as satisfying. But sure, it's always interesting to do something completely new.

What is the dream interview to do, with anyone and anywhere?

Rille: I would have liked to interview Peter Rangmar in Galenskaparna & After Shave. He sadly died of cancer in 1997 and was my personal favorite of the bunch. By far the most talented actor of them and he had a personal expression that resonated in every conceivable circle. He rests in peace at Nya Varvet's cemetery here in Gothenburg and is forever missed.

Micke: It would have been interesting to hang out for a weekend with Fat Mike in Nofx and document it. It's definitely a favorite band that just keeps getting better and better. I think it could be a crazy weekend, he really ages in style, which is he doesn't give a damn what other people think of him.

If you think about all the interviews you've done, which one do you rank as the best?

Rille: The Erik Niva interview in Din Mun svarar nej men dina ögon svarar jag #10. Admittedly, I had spent many hours looking for old handwritten letters from Erik and reading all the issues of Benzine, but what made it so successful was of course the interviewe himself. He is unique and possesses the rare ability to mix a genuine interest in geekery with an enthusiastic light-hearted tone of voice that makes you just want to listen or read on. The content itself is always taken very seriously, but the self-distancing of the execution is constantly present. The timing was also optimal, I realize in retrospect. He remembered enough about his punk and fanzine period, the Farm thing was history and he was on his way into what had become his hallmark for the general public – an established sports journalist at Sportbladet (and later also Viasat).

Micke: I've quite recently done my 201st interview, yes I've actually managed to put together a list of all the interviews I've done. A favorite was the one I did with Avantgardet a few years ago. It became more of a conversation about drugs, mental illness and that whole thing. Then it's always fuzzy to talk to Jahna in Dead By Horse. 

There are some Swedish record companies now like SCK, Grönpeppar, Sockiplast etc... Are there any other things you would like to highlight?

Rille: The heroes of Beat Butchers. Still the cheapest prices in the industry and a personal approach that breathes true genuineness. Also want to highlight Skatt Records who I hope continue with their business. First they pressed the underrated and sadly forgotten band Sten & Stalin's two full-length albums on vinyl and then came Björnarna's phenomenal "Det sämsta". May they not end up with the flag at the top.

Micke: . Johan really only releases quality on Flyktsoda Records, his work in the diy world must never be forgotten or taken for granted. By the way, what is Bodenmalm doing nowadays? I often and gladly always want to return to the 90s, it feels like there were more record companies then, both big and small. The new generations are running their own now and seem content to end up on Spotify and similar streaming services. Of course, they should do what they want, but I still think they should... oh I don´t know. 
 

What is your favorite format when it comes to music... vinyl, CD, cassette or digital, justify the pros/cons of any format?

Rille: I like all physical formats, but I love cassette and CD a little extra.

Vinyl: Advantages are the size (a lot to hold, as Kurt Olvars-Martin put it) and that there is something special about dropping the needle. The disadvantage is the size (that it is useless to buy with you at gigs due to big goods).

CD: Advantages are the ease of changing songs and the efficient storage on the shelves. Don't see any downsides.

Cassette: Advantages are that it is a format that always associates with Punk demos with Mental Härdsmälta and that you can keep them in your pocket. Don't see any downsides.

Digital: The advantage is that bands that can't afford to release physically can spread their music. The downsides are that it is so impersonal and easily forgotten because of all the vinyl and CDs and cassettes that one has to listen to.

Micke: I probably play mostly vinyl but hang out a lot on Spotify. There are certainly both advantages and disadvantages to everything, I do not have the energy to dissect, the thing is that I rarely hear the difference in sound, I can not name myself audiophile of the year. Those who say that the sound is much worse on Spotify are, in my opinion, just trying to be remarkable. There's some elitism poked into that too. That's my opinion anyway.

Micke och Rille nu.

The way the world looks nowadays with war, inflation, racism etc etc, what are you doing so that it can feel like a better world... At least for a while?

Rille: For yourself or for the many? For my part, anger over a rotten world does not usually affect my personal well-being to any great extent, but music is by far the best catalyst for unbridled rage. For the many, I have actively intensified my political and trade union involvement in my workplace. Otherwise, my concrete political commitment is marked by intervals. Sometimes I feel that I have to escalate it and then visit political meetings and/or support struggles on individual issues.

Micke: Cats and snuff. 

How else do you think it is to live in Sweden with the new government?

Rille: I think it was nice that the previous disastrous government disappeared. Ministers who act like the worst kind of Twitter trolls (Morgan Johansson and Annika Strandhäll). A prime minister (Magdalena Andersson) who reacts like a grumpy kindergarten child when Riksdagen brings a motion of no confidence in one of the worst ministers in modern times. I am also both deeply concerned and holy angry about the growing parallel and shadow society that is now finally beginning to be discussed in public. System-threatening clan structures that bring both a reign of terror and a culture of silence. I work in the municipal sector here in Gothenburg and although I have not been personally affected yet, professional colleagues have been threatened and even kidnapped by scrapes from the active actors in the gang wars. It's easy to spout platitudes that we are safer than ever when you live in your isolated little bubble and never have to confront the sometimes brutal reality. It is no secret that I have long been highly critical of large parts of the Swedish left. The two most outspoken feminist parties – the Left Party and the Feminist Initiative – long denied that honour culture exists at all, and both parties still suffer from being forced to speak out on the issue. Instead, it has wholeheartedly pursued a domestic — and horrible — variant of American identity politics in which issues are subordinated to innate attributes and superficial characteristics. I will be a socialist until the day I am cremated and my ashes are scattered over some appropriate geographical trallpunk reference – but the established Swedish left is so clapping that I get cramps just thinking about it. But having said that, I don't imagine for a microsecond that our current government will be any less substandard. Rather, it is certain that the economic gaps will increase further, not least through tax breaks and other benefits for the wealthy elite – a group whose purposeful bourgeoisie always ensures is licked clean to the last square millimeter. They are also a guarantee that our school system continues to be the world's most deviant and unequal. My only hope is that they will be able to make some important one-off contributions to justice policy. Otherwise, there is a lot of focus right now on cultural policy and migration policy. When it comes to cultural policy, I obviously want culture to be free and independent. However, I must in fact agree with some right-wing debaters that there is a measure of hypocrisy in the criticism. Of course, the payments of cultural grants have been characterised by a certain amount of political control even before the Tidö agreement came into being. With the right kind of value-laden concepts baked into your application, the thing was ready haha. When it comes to migration policy, I do not like that they want to reduce the number of quota refugees, people with the greatest need of protection we will forever continue to help and receive, but I think it is good that they want to limit migration in general. The latter is, of course, an issue on which the left has taken a new stance in recent years. Probably so as not to ally themselves with the enemy (SD and brownshirts). But what they don't seem to understand is that they are instead hooking arms with another enemy (neoliberals). Historically, the left has always stood for a strictly regulated migration policy and I do not understand why they have embraced the liberal idea of having almost unlimited migration. No matter how much the security system massacreer Fredrik Reinfeldt asked us to 'open our hearts' and the Margaret Thatcher copy Annie Lööf chanted about 'humanity', we all know that it is not about some genuine craze for people in need, but about importing cheap labour and lowering real wage levels. That large parts of the left are playing along with this transparent and dilettantely directed spectacle is just tragic. I have worked in Bergsjön for seventeen years and even though I have met thousands of wonderful children and adults over the years and love to work there, you have to be extremely ideologically one-eyed to think that it is an optimal community building. Segregation is economic, residential and ethnic, and there are a thousand and one things that should have been done differently.

Micke: Personally, I haven't noticed anything yet, but I'm afraid of the day when they start poking around in health insurance. In the end, the Alliance made life hell, it took just over a year to get back financially. But if I look at the whole, it feels pretty scary like 30s Germany. There is talk of culture wars, there is talk of reporting systems by teachers and doctors, while many here swallow everything that Trump and his supporters are ranting about. People are brainwashed and hate speech is becoming the norm, ordinary people are becoming more extreme and get back thumps from like-minded people and just move further and further out on the hate scale. 

The only positive thing is that there are more punk groups, it feels like when it is a right-wing regiment, is that something that you notice?

Rille: No, I would have been lying if I claimed to have noticed an explosion of fledgling punk orchestras since September 11, 2022. On the other hand, it was probably quite a few years ago that Sweden had a left-wing government, so in that way... But on the other hand, I am extremely pleased that there seems to be a fourth punk wave going on in the country and that both old bands from the 90s and new bands from the last decade contribute to a greater and more activity than in a good long time. Things are looking bright in terms of regrowth and we know from experience that tough social and economic times give birth to both political commitment and plenty of protest music.

Micke: Oh, I don't know if more bonds are formed, but maybe those that are formed and those that already exist are getting angrier?

Rille

Five favorite records... Swedish....foreign....five best concerts you've been to?

Rille:

Rille:

Swedish:

De Lyckliga Kompisarna – Le som en fotomodell
Jan Hammarlund – Röda linjen
Magnus Uggla – 35-åringen
Räserbajs – Noppriga tights och moonboots
Carl-Johan Vallgren – Klädpoker med Djävulen
Foreign:
Lag Wagon – Hoss
Falling Sickness – Right on time
Sicko – Chef boy ru dumb
The Vandals – Live Fast Diarrhea
Nirvana – Nevermind
Concerts:
Harlequin on Alcatraz in Kalmar 1994
Refused on Bergslagsrocken 1996
Kolportörerna on Grytgöls visfestival 2001
Asta Kask on Svensk Punk 25 år in Göteborg 2003
Euskefeurat on Skulefestivalen 2005

Micke: I probably can't do any top-5 so I only pick five that are damn good.

Swedish: : Björnarna - Det sämsta, Planet Trash - 2020, Socialstyrelsen - I krossade speglars skärvor, Left Hand Black - Lower Than Satan, Sardo Numspa - Spöket i maskinen. 

Foreign:  Propagandhi - How to clean everything, Cause A Riot - Final Broadcast, Blanks 77 - Killer Blanks, Beastie Boys - Licensed To Ill, Shane Macgowan & The Popes - The Crock Of Gold.

Concerts are damn difficult as my memory is not as it should be, but Millencolin and No Fun At All at Kafé 44 1994, Pennywise at Hultsfred 1996, Rancid at Gino 1995, Wild Rover at Hultsfred 1995, Plus Mons at Huddagis type 1994. In any case, there are five gigs that are etched.

Per is interested in beer and so am I, what is your favorite variety when it comes to beer or do you not drink?

Rille: I'm not "interested" in beer in that way, but I love to drink light beers and ingest them as often as possible. My favorites are Red Stripe, Carlsberg Hof, Heineken, Grön Tuborg, Norrlands Guld and Corona (without lime).

Micke: I had a break of 8 years when I had filled my quota. I don't drink beer very often but I like Guinness, McEwan's and similar things.

Five quick questions

Stockholm or Gothenburg?

Rille: Gothenburg. Has lived in the city for eighteen years and thrives very well in the northeastern parts (Kortedala). But I could definitely imagine living in Stockholm. In the summer of 2006, I was at a job interview in Sollentuna and was then mentally set on becoming a capital city resident, but fate wanted otherwise (read: another charm was more qualified than yours truly).

Micke: Stockholm

Punk: Lifestyle or style of music?

Rille: Both, but the lifestyle presupposes the style of music and not the other way around.

Micke: Musiclifestyle

Go to a concert or listen to music at home?

Rille: What the hell. I need unlimited both to feel good. Refuse to choose.

Micke: Go to a concert

NATO or not NATO?

Rille: I don't think Sweden should join NATO, but I can understand if people think it was easier to take a stand before Putin's full-scale invasion. As the war draws closer, concern for one's own security naturally increases, and for many it outweighs political principles and ideological positions. But I remain opposed.

Micke: Not NATO

Buy records or sell records?

Rille: Buying and collecting records has been a big part of my life since I was a little couple. Selling records is fun, but it is in many ways an inevitable consequence of many years of uncontrolled record buying...

Micke: Buying records

Who is your favorite lyricist?
Rille: I have to admit that they are all found outside of punk. For me, Dan Berglund is the greatest. Articulated political rage in the 70s, gritty social realism in the 80s and slightly poetic realism in the 2000s. Always with total presence of mind and unerring sharpness in the formulations. Mixes literary expressions with the dirty language of the street. I am also extremely fond of some of Jan Hammarlund's texts. With the right subject matter, he reaches ridiculously high heights. From a purely technical point of view, Ronny Eriksson is incomparably skilled. Despite advanced rhyme disposition, he makes the narrative of the text flow as if it were the easiest thing in the world. From a strictly lyrical aspect, Ola Magnell was the greatest of all. Within punk, I want to highlight Per Granberg and Jeppe Strömqvist. Per Granberg has written many texts with philosophical aspects and his direct tone of voice in the formulations has made it feel honest and thought-provoking rather than theoretical and psuedo-intellectual. Jeppe Strömqvist was the singer in the Uppsala band Klurhuset that ravaged in the 90s. Unfortunately, they only released a couple of demos and a live tape. Dark and disillusioned lyric with bite in and mixed with black humor. These lines certainly deserved a better fate: "I like to drink red wine when I bathe and to listen to Uffe Lundell. I like pain that doesn't hurt – like Bruno Wintzell."

Micke: Stefan Sundström is in a good position, but the best is Rasmus in Avantgardet, not punk certainly, but there are probably some point themes there with exclusion and such. Really strong lyrics.

Rille

Playing punk and being apolitical, can you be? Best example of bands that are apolitical?

Rille: You can of course play punk music musically, without even hinting at any opinions or stances in the lyrics. I don't have any moral biscuits to hand out about it, but welcome anyone who wants to play melodic punk. The best non-political punk bands were Hydrogenium from Västerås and Kurt-Urban Karlsson from Katrineholm. Hydrogenium had noisy lyrics while Kurt-Urban drove on the more silly pubertal track.

Micke: Sardo Numspa may not be super political, they have chosen a different path that I still think works well for punk. But apolitical punk seems to have become more synonymous with those sitting on the fence with preponderance to the right. 

Ask yourself a question that you want but never get, answer it too?

Rille: Do you still have the bit of grass from Örjans Vall that you brought with you as a souvenir from Kalmar FF's Swedish Championship gold celebration in 2008?
I had that for a long time, but the housing company threatened eviction if I didn't stub it because they disliked the invasion of aphids it brought.

Micke: Can you not tell us all the nasty details about that time you played with Pass Out in that house in Björsared? Answer: What happens in Björsared stays in Björsared!

What's the best question you've asked yourself to any band, one that you've felt lonely and so happy with?

Rille: Honestly, I don't think I've ever been enthused by a self-posed question to the point where I've been tempted to scratch my back, but I like to ask my interviewees narrow and nerdy questions. I spend a lot of time researching and trying to find initiated and internal approaches to the questions. An optimal reaction from the questioner is: "How the hell do you know about that?" Thanks for the interview and have a good time. Support the stage, fight power and refuse consensus. And I would very much like to say hello to Rüdiger Falke.

Micke: Probably someone who came spontaneously during a live interview, I probably can't think of anyone specific right now.