Relations is a hard rocking group. More metal
than we´re used to here. The interview was done
in may 2024.
-Well, we’ve been a band for ten years now and
basically Michael (Drums) and Ray (me-Vocals)
started everything way before, which resulted in
several other projects before we found a solid
line-up with Jakob on guitars, Florian on Vocals
as well and “Nudel” on bass. We are all ranging
from 28 to 43 and have fairly regular jobs. I
work as a team lead in freight purchasing field,
while the others are doing some production shift
coordination works, paper producing and public
service management. Kind of boring but still
solid haha
-Several favorites. I mean, obviously everyone
in our band has different influences but we can
all agree on certain bands that made in impact.
I think everyone can jam out to Slayer and
Sabbath but we really have so many different
influences that it would not be possible to
namedrop them all. But I think it’s save to say
that we try to take everything in. Ranging from
Old School Hip Hop ala Gang Starr and Nas on my
side to Deftones, Converge, Misery Signals,
Nirvana and also a lot of black and death metal
in the name of darkthrone, immortal, entombed,
dismember and cannibal corpse. The list could go
on and on really.
-Actually it was quite classical “how do we name
our band” gathering where everyone made some
suggestions and on Relations we all could agree
on since it just stood out from the rest. We
actually never cared if there is any other band
with that name. But at least that I am aware
there is no other “big” project with the same
name.
-I think we all agree that the physical
component of a record is still fairly important
as far as the identification and the enjoyment
of a record goes. Of course it is really
important nowadays to make everything available
digitally but nothing quite touches the magic of
putting a physical copy on a turntable while
enjoying the artwork.
You have never been to Sweden and played or been
here as tourists? With this band or any other
band you have been in? If you not have when do
you come?
-As a band we’ve never been to Sweden. Hopefully
that changes soon haha. I think our guitarist
made a vacation trip not so long ago though. If
we would get the opportunity to play some shows
we would definitely manage to set this up. So if
you know anyone that would be interested in
booking us, let us know!
-Actually we’ve only been fairly active within
Germany and sometimes managed to visit the
Netherlands. But as we are still a more or less
local band, future will tell if we’ll visit
other countries as well. Of course that would be
a dream coming true.
-I think that describes it quite well. We never
tried to follow any trends when writing these
songs and I think the album shows quite well,
which influences we bring to the table. Although
the finished record is not quite the usual
metalcore sound you would expect as it contains
some more grit and harsher influences from black
and death metal that separates it from the
modern day productions within the genre. I often
get to hear that we sound like a more hardcore
leaning Heaven Shall Burn which is quite the
compliment haha
-I usually write all the lyrics in English
because I think it translates better in terms of
an identification platform. Also I think it’s
really hard to write good German lyrics that do
not sound forced and pretentious. We do have two
songs in German though, namely “Abschaum” which
translates to Scum (a shot at facists) and “Schwarzes
Blut” which means Black Blood. The latter was
written by our second front man Flo.
-Nothing is crossed out but I think you will
never hear a song about the bad ex-girlfriend or
something like that because I often find those
songs to be rather cringey.
-Well, Germans typically have a pessimistic
outlook on the world and their own country.
Looking at the new rise of alt-right parties
such as the AFD and also the other European
right wing parties getting stronger, it is quite
hard to stay optimistic. While the active
reigning politicians might not be perfect in
what they do and offer some room for critics, it
should never be an option to enable openly
racist people to gather more power. Therefore
we’ve got to position ourselves against this
development actively. Also keeping in mind our
own national history. We’ve got the
responsibility to avoid another genocide really.
-That’s difficult to answer since I’m only 32 by
now but I think in these past few years things
have definitely taken a turn for the worse. Also
considering the situations in Gaza and Ukraine
which are so shameful to watch nowadays. But I
guess we’ve got to make the best out of it and
hoping these things will turn into more peaceful
circumstances quickly. Additionally the effects
of climate change are getting more and more
evident and we all need to find a solution on
that individually to gather a higher common
knowledge of our resource management.
-Borussia Dortmund for sure. That’s basically
the place we are coming from since the city is
30 minutes away by car. Our guitarist Jakob
however would favor Schalke 04 somehow. The
other guys do not have any interest in football
to be honest.
-I think since we are living in an area where
rather big breweries are located (namely Veltins,
Krombacher and Warsteiner) we are all classical
Pilsener drinkers. None of us is straight edge
and I think the chances are fairly low that one
of us will turn to it in the future haha.
Although we highly respect that lifestyle. Nudel
also is a rather strict vegan nowadays which we
respect equally.
-There are several great bands to keep an eye on
from Germany. Speaking of hardcore you should
definitely check out the guys from Slope, Dagger
Threat and To The Wire as they all deliver a
pretty unique take on the genre. On the metal
side we have upcoming acts such as The Night
Eternal, Ch’ahom, Chapel Of Disease and Sulphur
Aeon who all released stellar records this or
last year. Highly recommended stuff.
-I think we’ve really grown as musicians and
offer a really straight forward and direct live
show. We don’t play on click track which usually
makes the songs a little faster live, opting for
a pretty intense experience.
-That’s highly different. I think we’ve got a
pretty reliable and great following within our
hometown area as shown on our most recent
charity event, where we nearly had 200
attendants. Mostly metal heads I would say but
also some hardcore kids who like to mosh haha.
Generally we miss all people who did not mange
to catch us live yet haha
-I’m a huge sucker for vinyl personally. Same
counts for Flo and Nudel. Of course we also use
Spotify and stuff but as we are musicians
ourselves we always try to support the artists
we like directly via buying merch or LP’s.
Favorite record stores have to be Idiots Records
and Black Plastic in Dortmund! Shout out to
those !
-Of course we sell merch. You can buy regular
shirts, longsleeves, hoodies, shorts, beanies
and even sunglasses but what sells best will
always be the regular band shirt.
-Puh, that’s a really tough question. I think
personally I would have to go with Every Truth
You Ever Failed To See since it is a
well-constructed and dynamic song that carries a
different atmosphere than most of our songs that
is more subdued and melancholic. People’s choice
would be our latest single Paralyzed or album
opener Eyes Of Medusa since they are more
straight forward.
-We actually did a few live covers already.
Namely The Killchain by Bolt Thrower and Roots
by Sepultura. But most of the time we just play
our own stuff.
-Actually we do care about reviews. If you’re
putting so much effort into something which you
cherish deeply, of course you appreciate kind
reviews. First and foremost we make music for
ourselves but nice reviews are always the icing
on the cake. I think the most popular yet, was
being in German edition of Metal Hammer and Rock
Hard which are fairly famous magazines.
Hopefully they’ll include our newest record as
well.
-Ugh, that’s tough man. Trying to consider all
our members influences and favorite bands, I
think I’ll have to go with Converge, Darkthrone,
Slipknot, Bolt Thrower and Terror. Weird mix and
will never happen but that would be ridiculous.
-I think creating music and playing it live is
one of the best ways to get all negative energy
out of your system. It’s rather cathartic and
therapeutic in a sense that it can be compared
to an intense sports session. And also you can
express all different kinds of emotion through
music which makes it so magical. I think that’s
why we all love music. Life becomes more
relatable you know.
-I wouldn’t say that every band or artist should
charge its music with politics but if you are
passionate about something as relatable as your
music, it can be a great tool to educate people
and transport your beliefs. I also would not
call us a political band but the mentioned song
“Abschaum” (= Scum) clearly states that we do no
tolerate any sense of racism, fascism or
discriminating shit.
-There are actually so many great bands that it
would not be possible to mention all of them.
We’ve all been fans of the Swedish black and
death metal scene with bands like Dismember,
Entombed, Opeth, Dissection, At The Gates,
Hypocrisy, In Flames, Soilwork and stuff like
that but also other artists like Millencolin or
Katatonia we do like fairly well.
-Interviews are never boring if the questions
are interesting haha. As we do not do so many
interviews it still feels exciting to us whether
it be in written form or via video chat. Of
course it is always great so have a face to face
exchange but all formats have their pros and
cons.
-Playing more shows, festivals and bigger
support slots so that we as a band can grow our
audience beyond Germany. That would be a dream
coming true!
-Actually not that much besides relocating at
the end of the month and starting to write music
again.
-Not really to be honest. I wouldn’t think of
myself as a wise person therefore I’d like to
leave the space for individual thoughts.
-Thanks for having us on you zine and supporting
us by giving us the chance for this interview!
We’d love to visit Sweden as a band and play
some shows. So, if you are reading this, please
check out our latest records GAIA which is
available on all streaming platforms as well as
on CD in our Big Cartel shop or via Dedication
Records. Thanks for listening! |