Boka from Ratos De Porao was so kind to answer my questions in january
2001.
You have been on the road for a long
time.please tell me a little history of the group and and how many different
members you have had?
- RDP started in 1981 on the city of São Paulo ( Brasil ) ,
the first record out was in 1983 .
After this the band started to put out records often ,
in 1988 we sign with roadrunner and then we started to tour
over Europe .
we changed the line -up lots of times , i joined the band in
1990 . and our new bass player joined mid 1998 .
RDP now is :
Jão - guitar , Fralda - bass , Boka - drums and Gordo -
voice .
Please tell me a little about every member
in the group right now, age, family, interests, something bad a bout every one
and so on?
- Boka (me) - 29 years old , married , a daughter 4 years
old .
I run a small distro and label and i like to go surfing .
- Jão - 32 years old , married , a daughter 4 years
old .
work as driver sometimes and sell t-shirts . likes the
football
- Fralda - 24 years old , likes to drink
- Gordo - 36 years old ,
works for MTV and he likes to buy cds and toys , play
nintendo and eat .
I have three records with you, Guerra Civil
Canibal, Feijoda acidente?, and Anarkophobia, what have you done more and how
can I get it?
- We have more than 10 albums already ,
Crucificados pelo sistema ( 1983 )
Descanse em paz ( 1985 )
V.c.d.m.s.a. ( 1987 )
Brasil ( 1988 )
Anarkophobia ( 1990 )
Ao vivo ( 1992 )
Just another crime in massacreland ( 1994 )
Feijoada accident ? ( 1995 )
Carniceria tropical ( 1998 )
Guerra civil canibal ( 2000 )
sSstemados pelo crucifa ( 2000 )
Só crassicos ( best of ) ( 2000 )
You have been on Roadracer, Roadrunner and now
Beat generation, why so many different labels and is it any more labels you
have been to?
- The first 3 albums of the band were released by
brazilian independent labels and then we signed with Roadrunner .
in 1996 the contract with roadrunner was finished and none
of the both parts wanted to continue together .
so far we didnīt signed with any label anymore , we just
give the permission ( license) for some labels spreaded all over the world
like Beat generation / Munster in Spain or Alternative tentacles on the US to
release our albums .
How does the brazilian punk/hardcorescene look
like now, any good bands, many places to play?
- I think the scene is pretty good write now , we have
tons of great bands in all styles and lots of D.I.Y. productions . good places
to play and some overseas bands touring often .
How is to live in Brazil, is it many poor
people there?
- The poor population here represent more than the
half of te whole country and they live in inhuman conditions , this is not
poverty this is sublife , they donīt live , just try to survive .
we have a kind of middle class that can still live in house
or flat and can buy a car or a new TV .
To justify so much poverty we have the dominant elites of
the country that are totally millionaire .
politicians here get so fuckin rich in a such short time
that nobodyīs understand , so they stole the public money , itīs poved and
everyday on TV , they go on trial , but nothing concrete happens and they are
still rich .
also the big business man here that make their money
stealing from the poor people anyway .
economuy is not so good and the social part is disaster ,
but aside of this we have beautiful beachs , beautiful girls , football ,
carnival , sun , cheap food and drugs , .... that makes brasil a paradise as
people says ,
The childs who are out on the streets with no
parents, have they been more or?
- Children lost on the street with no home or family
is very common here and increasing everyday , hey grow up into the margiality
and then it goes increasing theviolence and criminal life too , its a very
complicated social issue to discuss and could take a days to get to nowhere ,
...
What does Ratos De Porao mean in english?
- Cellar rats
You sing both in portugese and english why?
- When we were at roadrunner they asked us to record
in english , so we always did two version for the albums ( portuguese and
english ) ,
since 1996 all stuff is recorded only in english and are
albums are still released or disributed worldwide .
it never soudn cool to translate lyrics and try to sing into
the same song , it lost the powerful and with so much slang and lyrics talking
about brasil some translations are meaningless for some people .
Which is the best to sing in?
- Portuguese defently , sounds much more powerful and
natural .
Does politics and music goes along hand in
hand?
- You can speak about politics in your music and try
to share your toughts and experiences with the people ,
it sounds much more constructive .
We canīt deny that lots of people could start to change
their way of living influenced by lyrics and stuff .
i think music could be a start for a social change one day .
Who do you think make the best politic
lyrics in the world?
- It must be true , what you really think and have the
wish to share it with the people .
if a lyric is intelligent , positive and makes you rethink
and learn things thatīs good .
i think we must right positive things for a better life than
just say fuck the system and this is chaos and war and cosīof this the world
is dead .
When you do a song which is most important ,
the lyrics, the melodies or a refarin that people can remember?
- The most important thing on song is to sound cool ,
we make the lyrics after what is important too , but the first is the music
Who does the music in RDP, all together or
how do you do music?
- Basically all together
You did the CD Feijoada with many old punk/HC-songs,
why did you do it and how did people take it?
- We are all fanatics for the music for a long , we also
really like to play cover versions ,
I think people really enjoyed , thatīs all good bands and
good songs on the album , lots of classics and stuff
Which was the funniest songs to do?
- For me radio birdman , cosī itīs totally different
style of the music we play .
Itīs fun to hear you sing in swedish, did
you really try to do it or did you only come up with words when you did Spräckta
snutskallar by Shitlickers?
- Gordo just pretend to sing the lyrics or maybe he
took the lyrics from the 7ī itīs not difficult to pronounce your
language I really agree that i donīt understand nothing , but the sound
of the words and the pronounciation is very close to brasilian language
What do you know about Sweden?
- I donīt know too much about your country , I think
just music .
i think itīs a rich country , cold weather , i donīt know
.
Have you heard any good swedish bands?
- I know lots of bands from Sweden and i think they are all
great in al styles .
I like old stuff like Anti - cimex or Shit lickers and Mob
47
I like SkitSystem , Wolf pack , genocide SS , Randy or Mögel
.
I also like like Starmarket albums , i apprecciate lots of
different styles of music .
When I first heard you did play more
hardrockstyle didnīt you, why did you change over to hardcore?
- I didnīt understood this question , maybe you are
talking about the wrong band , we never played hard rock ,
in the early 90īs we used to put lots of bayarea thrash
metal and crossover , but never hardrock
How would you describe your music to someone
who never have heard you?
- Hardcore music
Have Sepultura make a way to other Brazilian
bands?
- I think after Sepultura success lots of people knows
tht we have good bands in brasil for metal or punk , altenative whtever , not
only samba and popular music
Football is important for many brazilians is
it so for you too. favoruite team?
- Iīm not into football
How is to be manager fro the brazilian
national team, you think?
- No idea .
Can you see anything which can combine
football and punkmusic?
- No relation
What does punk mean for you?
- Think on your own
5 favourite records, five favourite concerts
you have been to and five most important things in life?
- This is hard to say , your mind changes , I liked my
first Fugazi gig , SeeinīRed in the netherlands ( 1998 ) , Varukers with Olho
Seco in Brasil , ....
favorite bands and records , i donīt know , I could say
Poison idea - war all the time , Slayer - Reign in blood , Heresy - face up to
it
most impotant things in life ;
1 - peace of mind
2 - health
3 - somebody to love
4 - be yourself
5 - respect
Is it many interviews, is it boring?
- Not too many interviews and donīt think itīs boring ,
but sometimes i hard to find time to reply them in time , I do lots of things
together so...
Which is the question you want to have but
you never get, please ask it and answer it?
- I never felt this way before , perhaps i donīt want to
ask myself nothing at all
How is a good gig with RDP?
- When the crowd enjoy and goes mad !
How does the average fan look like?
- I donīt know
Do you have good contact with your fans? In
which way?
- For us band and fans are the same , we have good relation
, Iīm always together with everybody , have a beer and stuff
What do you think about the new way to
communicate with email and internet and that stuff?
- I love e-mail it helps us a lot with faster and easy
communication ,
defently the internet is the best instrument to put all the
people in contact ogether and do olots of things like organizing tours , promote
bands , report scenes , ....
Do you have an own computer? Not so many have I
think in Brazil?
- I have my own , but not too many people here have it
Any favoruitesites except mine then?
I Rarely surf on the net , i use it more for e-mail to get
in touch with people and business , ....
You have an own site, who does it and is it
important to have it?
- We have a site under construction , yes is very important
to have it for people to know about your band any time , just click and see
hatīs happening , you donīt need to wait for the next zine or mag to know
about you favorite bands
How much do you sell approxiemately?
- Iīm not shure , things go like slightin all the tme ,
maybe the best sell was like 50000 copies from the live album
Which is your futureplans?
- Work hard with my own label and distro
Which is the bands futureplans?
- Tour japan and US , make a new album
- I donīt know what it means
- Thanks for the opportunity and i hope to visit your
country someday