KAI MARTIN & STICK is back and that with a really good record |
Kai Martin & Stick was one of my favorite bands
in the punk / new wave style of the early 80´s
Kai's brazen voice mixed with saxophone
from Gomer did not only a different band without
a damn good band. Now they are back and Kai
Martin has been so kind to answer a bunch of
questions from me in August, 2016.
How was it that you did a reunion a few years
ago?
-When we ended August 10, 1985, it was never to
be reunited. Far too many bands had done it with
far too mediocre results. Some of us played Kai
Martin & Stick! -songs with the house band
(Swedish punk 25,2003 Schlager Jubilee 2005).
But that was all. So I met Charlie Burchill
guitarist of Simple Minds, who did not
understand the reasoning at all. On the
contrary, he urged us to start playing again.
Encouraged by this, we sketched on a reunion to
1 April 2008, that is to say 30 years after the
band's creation. It did not happen then, for
various reasons, so we made another attempt in
2012 to play the whole "Röd Plåt", our second
album (1982) with a new keyobardist, new
saxophonist and bassist ditto. It sounded not
good, but when Cremonese (Kai Martin & Stick! -gitarristen)
And I played "Rör, rör, rör dig nu” with
Augustifamiljen at Pustervik inauguration in
late April
the same year, we felt
"yes" this is an interest and we
attracted and triggered the audience really
there. Bassist and saxophonist defected in the
summer and the reality of reunification looked
bleak. But in November, with Alex Gabay. In
December, returned Gomer Explensch after a
lengthy stay abroad. Easter weekend 2013 we
rehearsed for the two gigs - Grand Central in
Stockholm and Pustervik - the weekend after. It
sounded incredibly good and the shows were
amazing.
Have you played a lot out since then?
-It was four gigs in 2013. Two in 2014. One 2015
and so far two this year, 2016. We like to play
more and we sound better than ever.
What do you think is the difference is in
playing now and 30 years ago?
-Then we were in the middle of a movement. We
sat on the crest of a wave and surfed with that,
took advantage of the power of this, chose our
own way and put our own dressings and
impressions. Now we try to reconcile it from
then with the here and now. An interesting
attempt to twist the nerves; not easy, but I
think we have succeeded.
What audience do tyou attract, it is only those
in our age, or have you received any new fans?
-When we made the comeback gigs, I was
surprised. Yes, there were the older crowd who
were young then. But also young people and
especially young women. So it was a good mix.
In the beginning, you were involved in
punkcircles. Did you feel at home there, or how
was it?
-The punk was the start of our music. We loved
the energy and the expression of many of the
bands. But pretty soon it became both uniformal
and conformal in a way that we are not
appreciated and many of the punks not Gothenburg
thought we was odd birds, just what we wanted to
be, and pretty soon we decided to call ourselves
a pop band. It was a way to tease, but
eventually we went on from there and ended up
more in the music we're in now.
How do you see on punk today, do you think it
lives and do you have some new punk favorites?
-That'saA great movement which both operate in
the here and now and that celebrates its roots.
My meeting with the young punks makes me happy,
there is a commitment and an energy, a
willingness to stand up for something. But it is
of course also become an art that not only has
the music, with the people who grow their
characteristics with tattoos and piercings,
besides the fantastic hairstyles; I'm glad that
I did was froced then, even if I am fascinated
and beguiled by it now. About bands, I'm very
fond of the Gothenburg band Rome Is Not A Town.
What are you listening else on today?
-Already back then I was an omnivore with jazz
from the parental home mixed with Hasseåtage,
Povel Ramel, and Swedish and American standards.
For it was the pop music of the Beatles, the
heavier rock and symphonic rock, which I was
very into the early 70s.
Then 2016 ...? Radiohead,it´s the best band now.
Your new album is a really good album filled
with post-punk (for that is the way the music
should be called). It is heavy and sometimes
feels a little dark. What inspired you for this
album?
What inspires the lyrics at all?
-It was important to connect with Kai Martin &
Stick! as we were when we stopped. I was then 28
years old, lived during the Cold War threats and
a polarized world of countries that rarely
rested on the male, edgy and cultivating a
prestigious think that went far too many
generations back (read Middle East). It was
tricky, the music would be charged with energy
and the lyrics could breathe desperation. The
first song we did was "Skriet" and "Fattar(ingenting)"
(both played at Liseberg and Henriksberg 2014).
"Skriet" is the one song that anxiety linked to
Edvard Munch's famous paintings on the theme and
Pär Lagerkvist's poem "Ångest" from 1916. The
rest of the lyrics took it´s time to write, but
landed well. I have long been affected by
refugee disasters in the Mediterranean and
wanted to write something about it, then came
the text was "Strändernas svall" to the song
that opens the album, and it also made another
video. What is perhaps most frightening is that
the texts that I wrote in the 80's has its
relevance 30-35 years later. So really, it was
purely thematically not so strange to approach
the atmosphere of the time here and now.
How many of the past members is in the group
today?
-Ronny Rock Svensson, Gomer Explensch and I have
been on all recordings. Georg Cremonese has been
involved since 1983. Markus Larsson, keyboards,
and Alex Gabay since 2012.
Tell us a little about each person, what they
are working with and their best and worst sides?
-Georg Cremone, guitar and songwriter. Working
in the music business MUG in Gothenburg and as a
producer and recording as well as livetechnician.
Is a renaissance man. What he does not know is
not worth knowing, is eager to learn and an
outstanding guitarist and man. Drew, a giant
load during the filming and production of the
album. May want to decide too much, which can be
tricky in a band where everyone wants to deeicde
much. Alex Gaby, bassist and songwriter. Working
on Bengans. Is the son of the actor Micha Gabay,
who played with former Kai Martin & Stick!
Keyboardist Tony Vibrato (Mats Landahl) in the
60s. Alex is a highly skilled bass player, who
understands the complexity of the band and has
contributed enormously to our update of sound.
Toured around the world with the band Noxshi
until 2010. Can succumb to negativity when
misfortune strikes with full force. But he is
pragmatic and find solutions. Markus Larsson,
keyboards. Working as the Volvo engineer. Is
incredibly curious to explore the retro sound
and has invited up the challenge of recreating
and reinventing Kai Martin & Stick! 'S music.
Time did not permit songwriting this time, but
there are resources. Dexterous fingers and
brain. Do not take up much space, which you must
do in this band. Gomer Explensch, saxophone and
songwriter. Artist. There is no who is playing
sax like him and he is the best. In addition, a
stage personality of rank. Without him no Kai
Martin & Stick !, it is quite clear. Suffering
from studio nervousness and fiddling some , but
weigh it up with a great personality and
amiability. I've played with him since high
school. Ronny Svensson Rock, drums. Film Writer
and -reviewer. Can everything about film and
music, can talk for hours about this.
Fascinating. He is a steady drummer, which made
great achievements in the studio. Is a collector
of rank, which can be a bit too much. Kai
Martin, singer, lyricist and songwriter.
Journalist, but unemployed at the moment. Has a
singular voice, which adds additional profile to
the band's music. Likes to be on stage, but is
completely useless at remembering lyrics.
You've been through a lot in your career? Once
you were idol band in the Starlet, how did this
happen?
You're not the band that was so famous, really?
-Right. The picture was taken by a freelance
photographer for a gig at the studio in
Stockholm during the "Röd Plåt" tour. But how it
got that idol image in girls' magazine Starlet
is a mystery.
What is the funniest show you have done in the
past and now?
-We were booked at a festival in Uppsala during
the "RödPlåt" tour with Siouxsie & the Banshees
as the main act. Just before our gig the
organizers came with panic in his eyes and
explains that Siouxsie set will not be. The
organizers wanted to tell this pronto, but we
said 'do it after our gig. " We go in and make a
triumphant gig before 3,000 people, the
organizers tell afterwards that those who want
to get the money back. Only a handful did so and
we were praised for having saved the festival.
In 2015 we played at Gröna Lund, Charles Trenets
classic hit song "La mer" isthe intro to "Strändernas
svall" and then we made what was probably the
best gig ever. It was power and euphoria, energy
and presence with a lovely audience response.
If you could choose five bands, living and dead
to have a concert with Kai Martin & Stick, which
five would you choose?
-Haha, What an opportunity. We never got to open
for Simple Minds, it would be on it´s place. I
have a dream of playing with Makthaverskan.
Playing with the Magazine should not be stupid.
To tease Ronny it would obviously be great to
play with Håkan Hellström. Public Image's an
outstanding vital band, which also would not be
wrong to play with.
Is there no one ever teased on that just your
name appears in the band name?
-It is it surely.
How did this band name came foreward, really, is
there a funny story behind it?
-We started as Stick !, because it sounded punky
and good. But, as I said above, was the punk
suit too tight. We wanted more. So, inspired by
Elvis Costello & the Attractions, Graham Parker
& The Rumours, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Ian Dury
& the Blockheads we decided Kai Martin &Stick!…
When we met, you said that you had a bunch of
records that you should clear away from home,
why? How do you see on the "modern" things like
download, Spotify, etc?
-The reason that I want to clear is that I am
stuck in the stuff that takes a lot of space.
Actually, when I have a minimalist's dream of
having just the essentials. Not only do I live
in abundance and there are thoughts I wrestle
with every day, but everything is stuck in a
kind of limbo. I just sell my Märklin Railway,
which has been in the basement for deacdes.
Still, it pains. It's not really good. Far too
many records I have for sentimental reasons and
never listen to. Why keep them ...? Spotify is
quite ok and a gold mine for those who want to
explore music. But I can, just like when I was
afraid of the infinity of space as a child, was
frightened by the limitlessness of music. Since
I think it is strange that those who compose the
music get back so little for this and the
Spotifyfounder Daniel Ek is extremely wealthy
for his idea, but the bands and artists that
made it possible is not really in the same
situation. Free is good, but it hardly helps
those who create music, or, for that matter,
films.
You did a solo album a few years ago, tell me
about it, it differed a little from the band's
records?
-I did not write the music for several years,
for what I did after Kai Martin & Stick! was not
good enough. But some songs crept in, one and
another song I made demo recordings. Only at the
end of 90´s century it began to drain, I met
Mattias Bylund (arranger and producer, who in
February received a Grammy for his collaboration
with Max Martin production by the likes of
Taylor Swift). We started making demos together
and suddenly he had produced one that sounded so
good that I said "We have to make a record!".
There was pop music for adults, as I called it,
inspired by Svante Thuresson, Bo Diddley, Mauro
Scocco, Peter LeMarc with multiple and the album
"Sol på svenska," where the title is a play with
Jan Johansson's "Jazz på svenska," where I
removed the o in the soul because I am only near
real soul.
How do you think it is to live in Sweden today,
politically, etc.? Black Ingvars did not play
for SD and the like, can you imagine your band
could take an opinion politically?
-We live in a strange self-centered era when few
want to share, but more want to reflect in their
own excellence. It is nasty and reflects itself
in politics, where we have a weak left that
close their eyes to a lot of problems and a
right-leaning against a fake story. Trump and
Jimmy Akesson grow the remarkable lack of
knowledge by talking about making the country
great again. In fact, we have seldom had it so
good, but we just do not want to share with
those who have as worst at the same time, I
think that we are very weak in our assimilation
policy. No man is good for not knowing what
limits there are, how important equality is in
Sweden (it has been fought for over a hundred
years and still have to be fought for, oddly
enough, in all camp) and why the intern ...?
Creating jobs, high and low. It worked in the
60's and I imagine that it works now. Then we
have and will always have a war against
prejudice, which must be completed. To not talk
about hatred, grown outside the network and
social forums. Who wants to live with hate ...?
And how can they cultivate their bitterness?
There is hardly any solution.
Which is your most political song?
I would say "Rör, rör, rör dig nu," wrote in the
shadow of the nuclear arms race in the early
80s, which gave huge counter-demonstrations in
Western Europe, with the final in Amsterdam with
nearly half a million demonstrators in 1981.
Something which, among other things got me to
write the song. But even "Ljug för mig" on Utan
Titel is political, just like "Jericho" on the "Simmarna"
about the Israelis attack on a refugee camp
south of Beirut with a huge number of
casualties.
Politik och musik, hör det ihop eller är det
bara dumt att blanda ihop dem?
-Popmusik och kärlek är ju en bra förening. Men
det är klart att budskap i texter måste vara
vidare än så. Så ja, det är självklart att
blanda in politik i musiken.
Best political band?
-Gang Of Four was / is an amazing band. Specials
as well, which continues with Jerry Dammers of
the Specials AKA and the song "Nelson Mandela"
is a good example. Now ... well, I can probably
miss the bands that are consistent and vocal in
their opinions. But, without being fond of his
music, it's brave of Niklas Strömstedt to make
it stand against SD, as he did in "Så mycket
bättre" last year.
Five favorite records? Five favorite concerts?
-The Answers are varied enough everyday and
mood. But ok ... the Beatles' White Album "-
contains everything. Magazine: "Secondhand
Daylight" - dirty beauty. The Blue Nile: "Hats"
-sentimentalt sadness and grandeur. Billie
Holiday "Lady Sings the Blues" - sore pain,
incomparable music. Bjork: "Debut" - headstrong,
intelligent, beautiful. Hunters & Collectors,
Hultsfred 1988 - beautifully, and deliciously
skewed. Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds, Q Club,
Gothenburg, 1990 - hard, tough and relentless.
Simple Minds, overwhelming, Simple Minds,
Gothenburg 1981 - tumultuous, powerful and
adorable static. Sinéad O'Connor,
Scandinavium, 1991 - emotionally strong,
musically impressive. Håkan Hellström,
Rockefeller, Oslo 2002 - ecstatic, frentetic,
dedicated.
Which was the first record you bought?
And the most expensive?
-The First record I bought was the single "Dream
a Little Dream of Me" in Skiölds record store at
Skanstorget 1969.
The most expensive ...? No clue.
Was it important to get your disc in a physical
format? Why only vinyl?
-Yes, so much tradionalists are we. The idea was
to also get it on CD, but we could not afford.
Tell us something really funny happened during
the years that you played?
-Funny ?! Kai Martin & Stick! is a serious band
(laughs). It happens always things when you're
on tour, and much of it will probably be more
internally fun than it works in public. But when
we would finish the "Röd Plåt" tour, we got
problems. The finale in Oslo was necessary to
get the economy on the whole, but bassist
Heinrich Höffgen, got chickenpox and had 40
degrees fever. He said still ok to play, we went
away with him bedridden with fever. Soundcheck
had to be done without him, who slept at the
nearby hotel. The problem was that when he would
to begin the show and he looked like shit with
boils all over his face. Intro music started, he
goes on stage, playing with his back to the
audience. The lodge is so that we are forced to
walk through the crowd to reach the scene and
when I'll get on he turns. The sight is
appalling, the spotlight makes him looks like a
leper, tongue hanging, his forehead bathed in
sweat. But he did it, even if we have the time
held the gig short.
Future plans for the band?
-Play More, making new songs and see if we can
afford more recordings.
For yourself?
-I'm out of work
after 35 years of GT, so the tip is
received with gratitude. Otherwise, I play
hockey, sas a goalkeeper as I have always done.
Writing on my blog kaimartinblog.com ...
Words of wisdom?
-Dare to be yourself and trust that you are.
Something to add?
-Thanks and do not forget to listen to Kai
Martin & Stick! 'S new album [Utan titel], the
first in 31 years; you are worth it. |