Juggling Jugulars is a really good punkband from
Finland which I interviewed for about 22-23
years ago but now I must do it again. June-2020
I interviewed you dor more than 20 years and
what have happened since then with members. Have
it been many changes?
- We added leadvocalist Arja in spring 2000,
because we wanted to concentrate more on our
instruments. Before that it was me, guitarist
(Petteri) and Jantsa, our ex-bassist who was
also did the vocals. Sometimes it was hard to
make a tour when our singing/screaming
techinique was somehow wrong and we struggled
quite a lot with our voices during the longer
(+10 gigs) tours.
The next change was when before mentioned Jantsa
got brain hemorrage in September 2006. He
survived somehow but his other side was
paralyzed and he also lost his ability to talk
and swallow. The next phase of his tragedy was
serious mental problems he got and finally; he
committed suicide in May 2008. Really sad.
Meanwhile we were finishing our album “Salute No
One” and our friend Jaani promised to take care
of the basstracks for Jantsa but he ended up as
our bassist/vocalist after all this.
The next line-up change is still going on; our
former member and guitarist Tero suddenly died
(heart attack) last November (2019). It was
really big chock for us and we didn´t know if we
can continue with the band after all this. But
since the January/February we have gone to
rehearsals and tried to get our band together as
a quartet for the first time. We were supposed
to play gigs again but then this corona hit the
world and we are still waiting for the gigs to
start again.
Which is the biggest difference with playing
today if you compare with the late 90´s
- We are definitely still the same band
musicwise, but nowadays I think our songs are
better thought and arranged. In the 90´s we
tried to be productive and make our songs really
fast from rehearsals to studio; everything as
fast/cheaply as possible. Sometimes it worked,
but in many cases I think we should have spent a
little bit more time with songs before studio
and also at the studio. Now we try to spend more
time getting the best out of every song.
I love your latest record and I think it sounds
like a mix of anarchopunk and our own swedish
Baboon Show. How have the reviews been on the
record
- So far we have got really good reviews, many
people seem to think that it is our best record.
And it might be true – we are really happy with
it!
Have you never been singin in finnish?
- We do have songs in finnish, but only a few.
It might sound stupid, but we feel that our
band-identity is probably more “european” than “finnish”.
Finnish tradion is more 82-style of hardcore,
but our influences and ideas come from wider
range of international DIY-punk-music. We have
got quite good feedback of our finnish songs (especially
“Isän Rakkaus” from our Forward 12”EP) and even
requests that we should sing in finnish, but it
just doesn´t feel our thing.
How have you have it during the worst
coronatimes in Finland?
- It has been hard; many people work at home,
schools were closed etc. We didn´t even go to
band rehearsals for a long time and many gigs
were cancelled (including our gigs in Göteborg
and Oslo that were supposed to be in May 2020).
But we are all in the same situation, so what
can you do? Now it seems a bit better –
hopefully we will not see the 2nd wave of the
pandemic though… It is really sad to see how
many people have died of this virus and the
number is growing in South America especially.
It is not over yet.
I really love punk with a woman on song, I
understand you agree and do you have any special
favourites which is having a woman on song?
- Yeah, I agree. My favourites are (the first
that come to mind): The Avengers, DIRT,
Barcelona, Accidente, The Assassinators, La
Fraction, Heyoka, Life But How To Live It?,
Inner Conflict…
How is
to play this sort of punkrock in Finland?
- Well, we are not the hottest band in the scene…
We are not trendy at all! We should be
finnish-singing melodic 77-group or fast
82-style hc-band (in finnish), then it would be
different. But we are Juggling Jugulars, so
better get used to it
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Have your view on punk been changing since the
start or is punk the way you live?
- I started following punk since 1982 when I was
only 10 years old, so I have lived throught the
80´s pen-pal -period when I wrote letters all
over the world and changed records and fanzines.
It was insipiring! I think punk-scene has lost a
little bit of that DIY-attitude during the
decades. The 90´s scene in Finland was probably
more political as well comparing to this day
(the rise of finnish anarchist-, antifa- and
animal-rights movement), but it was maybe
because there was political awakening of the new
big generation (kids that came in when Green
Day/Offspring/Bad Religion got big their
following). But I don´t complain; we have more
gigs than ever and nowadays it is easier to
communicate internationally etc. But punks are
getting older, so we would need a new young
people to the scene.
How is the punkmovement lives on in Finland? Any
good bands?
- We have few bigger cities; Tampere, Helsinki,
Turku, Jyväskylä and Oulu where the most of the
gigs happen. We are doing ok! My current
favourites are: 1981, Kohti Tuhoa, Maailmanloppu,
Lapinpolthajat, Wasted, Bad Jesus Experience,
Influenza, Vapaa Maa… Only few to mention!
Have you been to Sweden and played anytime? Do
you dare coming to this
Coronapandemic land anymore ?
- We have played there few times, but really we
should have played there more during our
history. Our first time in Sweden was already in
1990 when we played in Umeå at some
punk/hc-concert with Step Forward, Dr and The
Crippens (UK) and MomIDo7 (Germany) and some
others.. Good memories! Since that we have been
occasionally in Stockholm, Punk Illegal fest
(2011) and at Göteborg once.. We should come
back there as soon as possible!
In Inheritance of Fools you sing I hate fucking
nazis, do you have much problems with that sort
of stuff in Finland? We have our
Sverigedemokraterna which is old nazis which
fools the oridnary people that people from other
countries is the cause of all problems in
Sweden…
- I think we have the exact same problem here
(and all over the western world right now..). We
also have “Truefinns” (=Perussuomalaiset) that
has the very same ideas like you have with
Svergiedemokraterna over there. Under the
surface - not even very “secretly” - the members
are active in more openly
far-right/nazi-movements, like now-banned
“Nordiska motståndsrörelsen” or Nordfront that
have a common goal with your nazis to force the
nordic countries under some fascist-regime and
blame refugees about everything. Fuck them!
You have had a lot of different of labels, how
come?
- I don´t know; we have been around for so long
that we are lucky to have many friends! It is
also quite easy; when 5 labels in 4 different
countries released our new album, the
distribution works really well! When LP/CD comes
out; it is already released in many countries.
And postages within EU from Germany or Poland
are cheaper than from Finland, that is why
distribution in these countries is easier. One
LP with postages from Finland to France or Spain
= the price would be just crazy…
I compare you a little to Baboon Show and like
if Subhumans had a woman on vocals.? What other
comparasions have you got?
- Wow, that sounded really nice! We like both of
these bands a lot and actually when we played at
Fusion Festival (Germany) in 2018 we saw them
both there! We have been compared to some old
anarchobands – that we sound like “updated”
version of them? That feels really nice!
Actually people seem to say in the latest
reviews that we have our own sound and no matter
what we do, it always sounds like Juggling
Jugulars. Not bad!
Do you care about reviews, which do you trust
the most, the bad or the good ones?
- I am very critical of what we do, so I don´t
mind that much what is written (especially bad
stuff). In the end we basically make music for
ourselves. Of course the music is meant to play
live before audience, but when we make songs we
try to make us happy with it, that´s it. If we
think that some song is really good, we don´t
really care what other people think: we enjoy it
still. Good review make us really happy, but
sure, it is always better if there is some good
personal point in the review why it is that good
or why it sucks.
The new Ep Asylum, is it only digital? You are
satisfied with the songs?
- I had to think what you mean, but I realized
that somehow it is in Spotify mentioned as our
latest release? Well, it was recorded in 2012
and released in 2013 as 7”EP by Kämäset levyt
(Finland). 300 copies out somewhere (sold out
from the label). When it came out we were really
happy about it. It has songs that we still play
live; “Asylum” especially will probably be on
the setlist many years to come.
Do you feel that you have released a record if
it don´t come as a CD/LP/Single? Which is the
best format to listen to music?
- In my daily life (at work etc) I listen music
from my mobilephone (bandcamp/youtube/spotify/etc)
and at home from my vinyls. Vinyl is my
favourite format, absolutely. I think that the
most of the young people (born after 2000->) are
so used to digital music that they don´t care
that much about physical release. My oldest son
(20 years old) buys his favourite albums as
vinyls, if possible. So the vinyl has still some
value even with younger music-lovers, but they
are not majority.
I think we could release some songs digitally (streaming)
but definitely not a whole album... It wouldn´t
feel right.
When you do your songs, are you doing them all
of you or how do you do them?
- Basically I am the main writer, but sometimes
Jaani (bassist) and Marko (drummer) make some
songs or parts too. But the arrangements are
very democratic and there our vocalist has a
really big role.
Is there many interviews? Is it boring?
- No, this is also becoming more and more rare.
I used to make quite lot of interviews in the
past for fanzines, but not that much anymore...
It takes time to write answers, for sure, but it
is nice! Usually interviews tend to happen on
our tours before gigs – or right after the gig,
so it is always in a rush and you are not at
your best in that live situation.
Which is the most odd question you ever have got
in an interview?
- I am really boring here. There are some for
sure, but just can´t remember them anymore.
Which is the question you never get but you want
to have, please ask it and answer it?
- “What is the secret of 30-year-old band that
is not really famous?” We give room for each
other and respect each other´s priorities. That
is why it is always nice to meet and play. Plus
that our music is something we all like; it is
mixture of old-school and modern punkrock. Small
audience works for us very well; we are all on
the same scene anyway.
Please tell me of the following records and what
you think about them?
The first record you got?
– Chuck Berry´s some “best of” compilation,
maybe titled “Roll Over Beethoven”.
The record that got you into punk/hardcore?
– UK Subs: Diminished Responsibility was my
first punk LP that I bought, but finnish LAMA
was the first punkband I loved before that.
The record that does that Juggling Jugulars
sound like they do?
- You mean our main influence? In the beginning
Bad Religion´s Suffer LP was a huge influence
and I have always loved Rudimentary Peni´s Death
Church LP and Dead Kennedys Plastic Surgery
Disasters LP. But nowadays it is really hard to
pick any huge influences.
The record with the best coverart but you got
disappointed on?
- Crass: Yes sir, I will LP might be it; it is
quite difficult musically. Not maybe “disappointment”,
but still I wouldn´t call it their best work.
Their artwork was always brilliant.
-The record you are ashmed of?
- I listen to many kinds of music and shaming
music I sometimes like to listen, is not so
familiar feeling. I could shame politically some
records, but I think I don´t have any of that
stuff; no Skrewdriver or Ted Nugent records in
my collection!
-The record you have been wanting to be playing
on?
- That´s hard! Musically maybe Cross-Stiched
Eyes would be fun to play with, or more
heavy-stuff, tuned down guitars, like Kylesa –
just to play guitar differently with different
attitude.
Music and politics, does it always goes hand in
hand?
- I guess it does. Even if you are apolitical,
that is also statement. But you can have a
political band without political lyrics, if you
work in the DIY-scene and express your views
outside music and make a stand.
Do you have any of your fans which have been
doing something that shows that they´re real
fans, like tattoos etc?
- Yes, we have seen some JJ-tattoos! That feels
great and weird at the same time!
Please tell me a really funny thing which have
happened during your career?
- On our first tours across Europe when there
were still a lot of border-control we were
stopped for hours; customofficers were searching
for drugs and we had to be naked somewhere in
their office etc. It happened few times but we
will never forget it. Or playing at some squat
in Prague in summer of 1994; electricity come
from street-lamps and we had a huge party going
on. Atmosphere was really warm, unique and
international: lots of travellers were gathering
there as well.
Many rockbands do thier own beer, do you like
beer? If you do a beer which sorts of beer would
it be and what have it been called?
- Yes, I love beer! Bring me Jugu-APA, american
pale ale. Or maybe Juguinness, dark stout?
Is there any good bands that you like which is
from Sweden?
- Yes of course! I have listened to bands like
Anti-Cimex, Ebba Grön, Invsn, Masshysteri, The
Vicious, DS-13, Crutches, Baboon Show, Sju Svåra
År, Allvaret, Burning Kitchen, Imperial Leather,
Sex Dwarf etc etc. You have had a huge amount of
different kind of great punk/hc-bands!
Is music a good way to get out frustration?
- Playing live or even at rehearsals, it helps a
lot with frustration!
Wisdomword?
- When there is a will, there is a way!
Futureplans with the band?
- Right now we are waiting if we can play few
gigs in September in Austria, Czech and Poland.
But otherwise we try to make new songs and get
our band working again.
For yourself?
- Right now I am waiting for my summerholiday.
Normally we would have travelled abroad with the
family, but now we try to find something
interesting and relaxing here in Finland.
Something to add?
- If you haven´t checked us out; go ahead and
visit our bandcamp, there is lots of records
downloadable for free. And also from Spotify you
can find our essential records as well. Thanks
for reading this! See you at the gigs!
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