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Hjelle from, among others, Bäddat för Trubbel
took the time to answer a bunch of questions
from me. Nice because I think he's a guy who has
a voice with a lot of feeling that I've really
stuck to.....March 2025
Tell us a little about yourself, age, why you
started playing music etc?
-I am a
full-time working father of small children who
lives out in the Skåne countryside. In my spare
time, I make some boogie-based rock music as
much as I can.
You have been in Bäddat för Trubbel. Hjelle &
Ormarna, solo career etc etc. What else have you
played in and what is the difference between
Hjelle himself and Hjelle & Ormarna?
-I've been called Hjelle for as long as I can
remember so it's simply me. After I released the
first Hjelle record, I put together a backing
group to be able to play live. In the end, there
were permanent members. When it says Hjelle on
the record I play everything. When it says
Hjelle & Ormarna, it is Johan, Bengt and Emil
who play. The difference for the listener is
that you don't have to listen to my awkward
piano clinking, my rudimentary bass lines and my
rigid drumming on the Hjelle & Ormarna records.
I've been in what feels like a million bands and
never put anything down so I'm probably a member
of a lot of bands. Everything from psychedelic
rock to bands that should almost be described as
noise projects. It's boring to just play the
same thing all the time.
It feels like you've got your own singing style
almost, do you get a lot of comments about your
voice?
-No.
The texts are they self-experienced or are they
just stories taken from nowhere?
-A combination. On the one hand, my texts should
not be read as an autobiography. On the other
hand, I've felt every single emotion that I sing
about. Sometimes it's things that have happened
to me, sometimes it's things that have happened
to friends/people that I've met at the pub,
sometimes it's a combination mixed with the
narrative elements that are needed to be able to
convey what I want to get across. I wouldn't
have the energy to rehearse a song whose lyrics
don't mean anything, it feels completely
unnecessary.
Tell us a little about the following lyrics
P4
--P4 is usually on at work and it struck me that
sometimes really good music is played. At the
same time, I can't stand P3. Obviously an
indication of age. I put this observation
together with a text about wounds that never
heal and ended with a small nod to Säkert!'s "Är
du fortfarande arg".
Man på en scen
-I don't know how many self-help ideologues'
meaningless speeches about positive thinking
that I've had to suffer through at some kind of
kickoff or start-up or the like. The worst
example I've experienced was when the post
office sent out fired mail cashiers who were
supposed to teach us postmen who were left to
think positively about the cutbacks (which the
cashiers themselves were part of). An unusually
sadistic measure even by postal standards.
Fötter på fast mark
-People usually try to help as best they can.
That is fundamentally something positive. But
sometimes the encouraging words hurt more than
they help.
You release the records on Jared Sin, is it your
own label or how is it? Because you appear on
all the releases. Tell us a little about Löparna
and Patrik Strand's El-Kvartett as well?
-The electric quartet is that we translate
English-language country classics and play for
people who like to cry in the beer. I play
stolid shuffle drums and write some
translations. Löparna are nonsense. Often the
idea behind the song itself is better than the
song itself. I love silly music. One of the
greatest lyrical masterpieces in music history
is The Ditto's 'Mustard'. So that's kind of the
direction we're trying to aim. I don't
understand how people can want just one band.
It's like just having the same feeling all the
time.
Do you have time for anything other than playing
music really considering all the groups and your
productivity?
-I work a full-time job and am a father of young
children. It takes most of the time. Music
doesn't take that long if you're not going to
keep on dragging it out. People seem to love to
rehearse hour after hour after hour. The songs
should be seven minutes long and the gig should
be two hours. It's just boring, silly and
unnecessary. It's easy today to do things.
Record and release on bandcamp you can do with a
simple phone in like 20 minutes. Anything that
takes longer than 20 minutes is a choice you
make because you want to achieve something else.
But these are purely personal and private
reasons. For example, I choose to release most
of what I release in physical format because I
love physical format myself. It costs and it
takes time, but it's a trade-off I make. I
record everything with a porta in the rehearsal
room. It would certainly have sounded more
"real" if we had gone into a studio but partly I
myself like very little music that sounds "real"
and it costs ridiculous amounts.
Your music is very punky without really not
being punk? How do you see on punkrock, what
does it mean to you, is it just a word,
lifestyle or just a style of music?
-Punk is a style of music. A style of music that
was invented to sell clothes. In the same way
that the genre blues as it was understood today
was invented by a furniture company and garage
rock was invented by record collectors. That
doesn't mean the music is bad. Genres in
themselves are pretty silly, luckily it seems to
be only stophiles like me and those in my
generation who care about that stuff. If you
like punk then you should of course also listen
to Bunker Hills the girl can't dance even if it
is not put in the punk compartment in the record
store. The compilation album 'Songs in the key
of Z' had as its tagline "Get off the
focus-group treadmill". It is a good call and a
good motto to live by. Today, there is a lot of
talk about Spotify ruining music by using
corrupted algorithms that give extra tips on
artists that they themselves make extra money
from. I don't know when the idea that the music
industry (or any other form of commercial
industry) should be reko started to spread.
There are few industries that are as thoroughly
corrupt and greedy as the music industry. Of
course, the music industry, and thus also
Spotify, are greedy bellies who only look to
financial gain. Of course, their algorithms
recommend music they earn extra money on. But if
you only get your music tips from Spotify's
algorithms, it's kind of like if in the 80s you
only got your music tips from the reviews in
Aftonbladet. Tell your friends about what kind
of band you like, talk about music in the lunch
room at work and read blogs/fanzines etc that
are about the music you like. Listen to music
outside of the algorithms. Find quality music
and tell everyone you meet about what you find.
The industry and genres are today, at best, a
necessary evil. Support the arts. Support the
quality. You don't do that by casually talking
shit about Spotify as if it's worse than any
other part of the industry, you do that by
actively looking for and listening to good
music. Regardless of what genre compartment it
is put in. Regardless of whether it is on major
labels or is self-released. In the same way that
it has been the only way for quality music to
reach out in all times. Get off the focus-group
treadmill!
Is there any really good punkbands that you like
a lot?
-I love lots of bands. If they call themselves
punk I have no idea. Tjänstemännen, Haket, Raka
rör, Trubbel, El parador, Härvan, Mascara
Snakes, Polisman B, Andra Alternativet, Svart
städhjälp, Kübler Ross, Gatans Lag, Lilla krogen
band, My darling you, Hanna Hirch, Roffe Ruff,
Billy Opel, Kiitos För allting, Hospitalet etc
etc.
I interviewed Tre Folköl from Malmö and compared
them a bit with Bäddat För Trubbel and he became
completely lyrical about the comparison? That's
a nice feeling to hear, isn't it?
-It's fun that people still listen to us even
though we haven't done anything for almost ten
years. I'm proud of most of what we did in BFT
and it's of course extremely honorable and fun
that people got it and that it's still listened
to.
When you play live what kind of people is it on
your concerts? Older/younger?
-There have been many older men who know their
rock and it has been a great honor to play for
them. In recent years, there have been a few
more young people, which of course is also fun.
Are there any types of people you miss?
-I'm so fucking happy, indescribably happy that
someone comes and looks at all. I was 15 when I
started playing in bands and then I go on for 15
years until we started Bäddat and anyone at all
cared. I find it hard to describe how grateful
and happy I am for every person who comes to our
concerts.
How do you see the political climate in Sweden?
Shootings, TIDÖ agreements, SD/KD and other
shit, is it just to fight on or what should we
do about it?
-When I was 18 I had all the answers. Now I
don't know. There is no one that I admire more
than those who still have the strength to fight.
I don't have any answers. We must stop asking
artists/artists/influencers/new age
ladies/self-help gurus and other loose people
these questions and instead hold our municipal
politicians accountable for their decisions. Why
they close recreation centers, why they cut back
on welfare when they go to the election to
increase it, why they sell things that are
everyone's property at a lower price, etc.
To have politics in music, is it important or
even completely unnecessary?
-I have actually written very few political
songs (Homeopati, Fan ta NPM, Maska and a few
more). Music is entertainment. There's no excuse
to be boring as a musician. I'm just trying to
describe what I see. Unfortunately, we live in a
time where it is seen as political to describe
what you see.
Best political band/artist?
-Gatans Lag and Woody Guthrie.
Will it only be gigs in Skåne or have you been
around a little here and there? Abroad?
-We play when people ask. Abroad, we have only
played in Denmark and Norway. Otherwise, we have
played from Skellefteå to Ystad. I would guess
that about half of the gigs are in Skåne.
What's the best thing about playing live?
-To meet happy and nice people.
Tell us a little about the following records.
The first record you bought or got?
-Nagged myself to Hasse Andersson's Änglahund
when I turned five.
The album that changed your life?
-Kommissarie Roy record made me want to play in
bands, record and release music.
Last album you bought?
-Roffe Ruffs/Bubba Flex - Panterparken 2
The album you're ashamed of?
-I'm too old to be ashamed of music.
The album that makes Hjelle och ormarna sound
like you do?
-Kommissarie Roy's record and "Sixties archives
vol.1"
The album that always has to be in the tour bus?
-We usually go by train to the gigs so we don't
have to fight about who should be sober and
drive. So there won't be so much music
listening.
The album that you would have liked to have
played on?
-I'm so happy that I get to play on my own
records. That's good enough.
Do you buy a lot of records yourself?
-Maybe 30-35 a year. Should buy more.
You release everything physically or how is it,
is it important to do physical releases of your
records, would it feel like you released for
example if you only released it digitally?
-I'm so old that I think that if the record
doesn't exist physically, it doesn't really
exist.
How do you listen to music yourself, what is the
favorite format?
-Mostly listens to Spotify. Prefers to listen to
7" EP. 2-3 songs per side is perfect.
Future plans with music?
-Keep writing and releasing music and keep
playing live. I really like the level we're at
now with the music.
Future plans otherwise?
-Take it as easy as possible. |