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Heathcliff have done a really good new LP.
Here´s an interview done with them in the
beginning of April 2025.
How did the band Heathcliff come together? What
was the initial inspiration behind forming the
group?
Bust-E: Back
in 2017, what started as a side project between
friends kind of snowballed into a full-on band
with a life of its own. Originally, it was
supposed to be a fun little Skatepunk thing on
the side – but we quickly realized we had too
much love for this music to keep it casual. Once
Andy joined, things really took off, and here we
are… still going strong and having fun!
Who are your biggest musical influences, and how
have they shaped your sound?
Bust-E: That’s
a wild mix. Everything from 90s Skatepunk like
NOFX, Satanic Surfers, Millencolin, Lagwagon and
Hi-Standard to bands like MUTE, Propagandhi or
even Bad Brains and RATM. Also, Metal, Hardcore,
Ska and Reggae are part of the brew. You’ll
definitely hear that we never wanted to limit
ourselves to one box.
How would you describe your music to someone who
has never heard it before?
Bernie: Homemade
Skatecore brewed with love and some extra
ingredients. 90s melodic Skatepunk of course but
also some Metal riffs, Hardcore and bit of
Ska/Reggae. I guess we have quite a journey thru
different vibes
within one album but also at live
concerts.
What is the meaning behind the name
“Heathcliff”?
Bust-E:
We’re talking here about the orange cartoon cat
from the 80s – the punk version of Garfield, if
you will. That grumpy little dude had the right
attitude.
Can you tell us a bit about your creative
process when writing music? Does it usually
start with lyrics or music first? Never any
thought of German lyrics?
Bust-E: Usually
someone brings a riff or structure, we jam it in
the rehearsal room, record a raw demo, and I
write lyrics based on the vibe of the song.
Sometimes things even happen spontaneously in
the studio.
German lyrics? Hmm… we’ve talked about it, and
actually Andy has a new side project called Chairwalk with
German Skatepunk lyrics. So yeah, who knows,
maybe Heathcliff will someday drop a
Deutsch-Banger too!
What is the most important message you hope to
convey through your music?
Bust-E: Stay
positive, don’t be a dick. We love the scene,
and we want to give back what it gave to us. We
address serious stuff too – social issues,
climate, fake media – but always with a
constructive or hopeful twist.
What was the inspiration behind your latest
album? Were there any specific events or
feelings that influenced the songwriting? And
the phrase “Postcard from a ParaHell Universe” –
who came up with the brilliant title?
Bernie: Life
itself was the inspiration – the absurdity of
social media where everything is about looks or
fame and two clicks away a crumbling world. But
of course an never ending inspiration is the
beauty of friendship and music.
Bust-E: The
main theme on the album is about what Bernie
said. The coexisting of a superficial and
artificial self-centered online world with a
shocking news from disasters, destructing, wars
and violence. Like two parallel worlds or as we
called it two ParaHell Universes. Its also a
combination of two song titles “Sugarcoated
ParaHell Unicorn” and “Universe in a Nutshell”.
I think the Postcard was an idea by out artwork
wizard Marco Divertimenti. Since every selfie on
a social media post or story is like a digital
postcard to multiple recipients, the postcard as
a symbol stuck.
How has your sound evolved over the years? What
kind of changes have you noticed in your music?
Bust-E: We
got better at writing songs that still kick ass
but also say something. Also, our latest album
is probably the most diverse one – more melodic
in some parts, more raw in others. We’ve
matured, I guess. Kinda.
Punk has always had a rebellious spirit. How do
you think punk music has changed in today’s
scene?
Bernie:
Maybe
it’s more inclusive now, at least in parts more
sensitive and less raw and we love that. Punk
today is not just angry young men – it’s a
community of all kinds of people standing up for
something. The DIY spirit is alive and well.
SBÄM Records – is it a good label?
Bust-E: Absolutely.
SBÄM is like family. Stefan has believed in us
from early on, and we’re stoked to call them our
“Mothership.”
Bernie: Plus
we’ve teamed up with Bearded Punk (Belgium),
Double Helix (US), and Pee Records (Australia) –
a true international skatepunk alliance. And
Bjorn from Bearded Punk became a good friend
over the years and his band For I Am is amazing,
so you should check it out if you haven´t
Can you introduce us to the members of
Heathcliff and tell us a bit about their role in
the band?
Bust-E: Sure!
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Bust-E (me): Drums & main
vocals – yes, both. I sweat a lot.
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Andy: Guitar, backing
vocals, riff wizard and rum-coke enthusiast.
•
Bernie: Bass, booking,
merch & band-dad. He keeps the ship afloat.
•
Stef: Second guitar, brings
Ska vibes and a ton of energy. Also the nicest
dude alive.
Bernie:
We have a special situation at the moment. Due
to a private situation Stef can´t put as much
time into theband as he would love to,
especially on weekends. But we are really lucky
to know nice and talented people in the punk
scene, so Mally joined in for guitar. Also I
would like to mention Mati, who did some screams
and growls on the album, does a lot of video
stuff for us and lately brings the screams and
growls on stage as well.
How do you handle disagreements or creative
differences within the band?
Bust-E: We
fight it out in a gladiator-style beer pong
match. Winner decides.
Bernie: Jokes
aside, we talk things through. We’re old enough
to know that communication is key – and no one
here’s got a rockstar ego.
Do you have a specific role or responsibility
outside of your musical contributions?
Bernie: I
handle most of the booking, logistics, merch
stuff… Basically the boring stuff … haha
Bust-E: And
I deal with lyrics, communication, and visual
concepts. We divide tasks like a good punk
collective.
Bernie:
And Andy does a lot on the producer’s site. He
is the one recording and mixing the
pre-production and does the recording in the
studio and helps the engineers with some editing
etc.
How do you balance the demands of being in a
band with your personal lives?
Bust-E: With
great difficulty and a lot of love from our
families. It’s a hobby that behaves like a
full-time job sometimes.
Bernie: But
it gives back in energy and friendship. Plus,
we’ve all accepted that sleep is overrated. But
yes Basti has a great wife, my girlfriend is
super cool and supportive. So we are the two
with kids and still pushing hard. But we also
experienced, that it´s not easy and
self-evidently.
How does the chemistry between band members
contribute to Heathcliff’s energy?
Bernie: 100%.
If we didn’t get along off-stage, we’d fall
apart on stage.
Bust-E: The
vibe is everything. We’re friends first, band
second.
What’s the best part about performing live for
you as a band?
Bust-E: The
people in front of the stage, screaming our
lyrics back at us. Also beer.
Bernie: Well,
playing music together just feels great. It
cheers me up in the rehearsal room after a long
day of work but on stage it´s factor 10 more
exciting.
Do you have a favorite venue or city that you’ve
performed in, and why?
Bernie: Punk
Rock Holiday in Slovenia was unreal – opening
the main stage was pure magic.
Bust-E: Also
our hometown shows in Munich – full of friends
and love.
How do you prepare for a live show or tour, both
mentally and physically?
Bust-E: Rehearsals
of course. Otherwise, we go with the flow.
Bernie: And
we try not to forget any cables… which we do
anyway.
Do you have any memorable stories from past
tours or shows?
Bust-E: Too
many! But one highlight: friends surprising us
in Manchester by flying in just to see us. Or a
good friend and his freshly married wife
stopping by in France on his honeymoon. We have
quite a few friends who are not afraid of quite
an effort to spend time with us. That’s what the
song “Keep this light on” is about.
How do you interact with your fans during
concerts? Do you feel there’s a special
connection with them?
Bernie: Absolutely.
We’re part of the crowd before and after the
show.
Bust-E: Heathcliff
is not just the band – it’s our extended family.
Good thing about punk rock is, that the
rockstar/fan concept does not exist. That would
feel odd for us.
How would you say the German punk scene differs
from other countries’ punk scenes, and how does
Heathcliff fit into it?
Bust-E: German
scene is super supportive, very DIY and tightly
knit. Not sure if it differs a lot from other
countries. Its small but vibrant. Munich on top
has a ton of good bands like Dankeschatz,
Captian Asshole, Straightline, Four Black Lungs,
Manu und die drei Akkorde and many more. Check
out the album inlay, we tried to capture a
snip-it of the bands we are connected with. .
What role do politics play in your music and
lyrics?
Bust-E: We’re
not waving flags, but we take a stance – against
fascism, sexism, racism. Our first album was
full of political songs and Postcard From a
ParaHell Universe has many songs addressing the
status of society. So yes politics play a role.
What other bands or musicians would you like to
collaborate with in the future?
Bust-E: We
already had the pleasure to work with Étienne
from MUTE – that was unreal. Next? Maybe someone
from Satanic Surfers or Belvedere?
How do you keep your music fresh and exciting
after all these years?
Bernie: We
don’t force it. We just keep writing what feels
good – if it excites us, it’ll probably excite
others too.
Bust-E: Also:
weird song ideas at 2am on a terrace with a
beer? Works every time.
What advice would you give to young punk bands
starting out today?
Bust-E: Be
real. Don’t try to copy trends. DIY isn’t always
easy, but it’s rewarding as hell.
Bernie: And
support your local scene – what you give is what
you get.
What do you know about Sweden?
Bernie: Beautiful
nature, incredible bands, Vikings and dark
winters.
Bust-E: Also
IKEA. But mostly Satanic Surfers, Millencolin,
Adhesive, Venerea… legends!
Any good Swedish bands you like?
Both: See
above – plus Atlas Losing Grip, Twopointeight,
Rebuke… There’s something in the water over
there.
Is it boring with interviews? Is it much
interviews? What do you prefer: telephone, face
to face or as this one via e-mail?
Bust-E: Honestly?
This one was fun! E-mail’s good because we can
reflect a bit – but nothing beats talking in
person after a show, with a cold one in hand.
Future plans for the band?
Bernie: Keep
playing shows. Japan tour is just around the
corner, and we’ve got more festivals and gigs
coming up. Maybe even hit the US or Canada one
day.
Bust-E: USA
maybe not so much at the moment. Or maybe we
should do it on purpose now. Can´t believe our
song Kim Nuke´Em VS Twittler is almost 8 years
old and this guy is again in the white house.
Future plans for yourself?
Bust-E: Finish
building my house and maybe get that
long-overdue sleep.
Bernie: Keep
the family, job, sport, band balance going.
Wisdom word?
Bust-E:
“Stay Posi, Not Zombi.”
Something more to add?
Both:Just
a massive THANK YOU to all the people who
support us, shout along, share our songs, or
just smile at our shows. Without you, this would
be a lonely trip.
And hey Sweden – we’d LOVE to play your
beautiful country. Make it happen!
Cheers and tack så mycket!
Love from Munich
Heathcliff (Bust-E beats & Bernie vibes included) |