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Die Bockwurschtbude is a really good german
punkband. Precisely before the year 2022 broke
up they answered a lot of questions from me.
MiMo: Mikro Mostrich (voc, git)
MiMo: Hi, I'm Mikro, 43 years old and I play the
rhythm guitar and scream the lead vocals. I've
been with Mieschka since the beginning. We gave
our first concerts in the laundry room in the
neighborhood and in the school, where we also
had our rehearsal room. Originally, I once
learned painting. After my community service in
a workshop for the disabled in 2002, I stayed
there and retrained as a group leader. I am
still working there and will probably continue
to do so until I retire.
MiMa: Hi, I'm Mieschka. I play drums at the
BOCKWURSCHTBUDE and have been since the
beginning. I'm in my mid 40's so along with
Mikro I belong to the younger faction although
we are both founding members. We seem to like
older gentlemen.
AA: Hello, I am Andie and joined BOCKWURSCHTBUDE
in autumn 2021. I still perform and record with
my other project FLIEHENDE STÜRME (formerly
CHAOS Z) as lead singer and guitarist. Still, I
have had the idea to join another punk band as
bass-player for years. After I got to know the
other guys of the band at a party and we enjoyed
some drinks together we quickly became friends.
As I heard some of the material of the new album
I thought ´This is brilliant - absolutely
amazing´. Then they told me that they were in
need for a new bass-player and.... - the rest is
history and I am really happy to be part of DIE
BOCKWURSCHTBUDE now.
RR: Hello I've been Riggø in the band since 2015
and I play guitar. So I'm about seven years old.
I am also interested in photography and work in
the handicapped aid.
Have it been the same members all the time, or
have it been many lineup changes? Please tell me
a little about every member? Earlier bands?
MiMo: We started out as a pair, until a supposed
bass player from our circle of acquaintances
found each other. The turn brought a second
guitarist. That went well for a few years. We
had many ups and downs before breaking up with
them. Then we were three with another bass
player, but as Mieschka already mentioned, the
current constellation of band members is
probably the most suitable and we are all
satisfied.
MiMa: As already mentioned, Mikro and I are the
founding members. The two of us started in 1995
from what was left of the band DIE KUNSTBLUMEN.
There have been a few line-up changes over the
years. However, we are very satisfied with the
current constellation.
Die BOCKWURSCHTBUDE is the name, where did it
came from and you wasn´t afraid that some other
group would be named so? And what the fuck does
it mean?
AA: In Portuguese you could say “Barraca de
salsicha tipo Bockwurscht”.
MiMo: What does the name mean? Fun, get hungry
and full...? I do not know it either. We wanted
to stand out as youngsters and just never got
away from the name. Haha. I was never afraid,
who should call themselves like us? There used
to be a Hip-Hop band in Berlin that probably had
the same name. Only for hip hop the name sucks,
so they don't exist anymore.
MiMa: Haha. It really would have been a big
coincidence if there had already been a band
with that name. That was just the nineties
funpunk time. Translated, that means roughly
something like sausage-takeaway.
You call you record for Sippenhaft….What does
that mean?
MiMa: Well, what's the best way to explain that?
In German, you can read that with a bit of
ambiguity. On the one hand, it is a term - also
coined during the National Socialist era - where
someone from the family, for example, is liable
or convicted for the actions of a relative. On
the other hand, you can also act together as a
clan or group. Both perspectives can also be
perfectly transferred to the present day.
However, it is difficult to explain and not so
easy to translate into English. But I think it
stands as a separate term like "kindergarten" or
"poltergeist" or "doppelganger".
Is it important to give out the record as
physical releases do you think? Would it feel
like you have released a record if you only
release it digital?
RR: I think it's important to release things on
a physical record. There is a huge difference
between simply listening to music on Youtube or
Spotify and consciously listening to a record.
One is consumption, the other a ritual :).
MiMa: Definitely for me personally. Some in the
band see it differently. But even when we
started the band, it was my dream to release
something on vinyl. Holding something properly
in your hand and reading the texts in the
booklet. But no one needs CDs. I gave away my
entire collection.
MiMo: It's always nice to have something in
hand. It's just more real than just streaming
the music.
AA: I am also a big fan of vinyl records and
loved the idea right away to release it as a
package with vinyl LP and additional CD.
Do you play any covers when you play live? If
you do, which then?
MiMa: We have a two cover versions in the our
liveset. We've been playing one of them for
years and it also has the most plays on Spotify.
Haha. We've only recently started playing the
other one, since our new bassist Andie Agave
joined the band. It's a track from one of his
earlier bands.
AA: Yep, the song “Duell der Letzten” by CHAOS
Z. It is fun to change instruments on stage
when we play it.
Please tell me a little about following songs:
a) Arschlecken,
b) Dieser Weg,
c) Scheisslied
MiMa: Actually, we don't really want to explain
our lyrics. They are also printed in the
booklet. But we're happy to send them to anyone
who's interested in the record and may have only
heard it on a streaming service. If necessary
also in English translation thanks to some
translator on the Internet. Haha. They are
mostly of a personal nature or describe things
that we have noticed or disturbed us in everyday
life. Most of this time comes from Riggø. But
Mikro and I also contributed lyrics. And I'm
sure Andie will also contribute something to the
next recordings.
Is it important to get out your opinions in your
music, and is it a good way to get out
frustration too? Politics?
AA: AA: Wasn't that the main idea of getting
started with a punk band?
MiMo: The lyrics are mostly created from the gut
and one's own feelings. It is of course
important to send the message to the listeners.
But everyone can also interpret and understand
the texts for themselves. That's what they're
for.
MiMa: It may sound a bit trite, but everything
you do is political. It doesn't matter whether
you don't eat meat or cross the street when it's
red. This is also reflected in our lyrics. Is it
important? No idea. You just can't avoid it.
RR: As Mieschka already says, everything is
somehow political. Mainly, however, our lyrics
are results of observations and grievances that
we observe and perceive. Talking about these
things definitely helps to reduce frustration.
Do you think that your lyrics can have effect on
other people who listens to them…any example on
it? Have you changed anyones mind?
MiMa: I honestly don't know. Of course, with our
releases and also with our live concerts, we
move in a certain bubble, where most people tick
in a similar way. You can't and don't need to
convert anyone there. But I do believe that
anyone who reads our texts and seriously
considers them will certainly get some food for
thought and maybe see certain things in a
different light.
AA: Some people keep telling "I feel exactly the
same way" after they listened to the songs and
the lyrics.
RR: I don't think it's about converting people.
We only tell our view of things. If someone
finds themselves in it, that's of course all the
nicer.
MiMo: It's nice when our music resonates with
people. If not, that's okay too.
How is it to play this sort of music in Germany
and which type of bands are you having concerts
with? Which is the most peculiar band you have
been playing together with?
MiMo: I found the band contests at the beginning
of our existence most unusual. It was compared
and rated with a wide variety of genres. That's
very strange, because you haven't moved in your
own scene.
MiMa: But we once won second place because a
friend of ours was on the jury. Haha. This
enabled us to play another concert outside of
our city. You had to see if you could get to
concerts somehow. Actually, we mostly play in
Saxony. Or East Germany, for that matter. The
most unusual band we've played with? I'd have to
look it up in our list, but I can't think of any
that spontaneously.
AA: Wasn't it with FLIEHENDE STÜRME in the far
west of Germany? Hahahaha!
MiMa: Now that you say it...
How would you describe your music in three words
for people that haven´t heard you? Do you call
it punk or streetpunk or maybe Oi!?
MiMa: Geman Language Punkrock
MiMo: Just DeutschPunk
RR: brute OI power hahahaha. Nah, just German
punk.
I like beer and also make beer... If Die
BOCKWURSCHTBUDE do a beer , what would it be
named and which sort of beer would it be? Or
maybe you´re straightedge?
MiMo: I think we would be a tart pilsner in a
green bottle:D
MiMa: Nooo! That would be something like Beck's.
I hate Beck's. Beer used to be just beer for me.
Except wheat beer. That was still not my thing.
I work in a brewpub myself, but more in the
administrative area. I got to know a lot about
beer (types). Andie also comes from southern
Germany, where you have a completely different
view of beer. I myself prefer a so-called
HELLES, unfiltered beer. We used to mix liquor
with candies and let people drink it at
concerts. All from one bottle. That's no longer
possible with COVID…
AA: I am a fan of Lager.....
RR: We should have our own beer?!
MiMa: No, making your own beer has gone out of
fashion again. Making gin is now en vogue. And
probably more profitable.
And how is it to live in Germany now? Racists,
Ukraina-war, covid?
RR: Society is already very broken. That was
certainly the case before, but the last few
years have made it really visible. Racism and
nationalistic ideas are still an issue, as is
black and white or camp thinking.
MiMa: Oh dear, these are really hard times. And
I don't think we've reached the end of the road
yet. This society is divided in so many ways. In
Germany it is the AFD that is driving a wedge
between people. With you in Sweden it is the
Sverigedemokraterna. You can see that all over
Europe, if not all over the world. It's really
bad. Also in private in the families. You have
to oppose this and try to find solutions to
approach again.
MiMo: All these stories are very unnerving. But
no world is perfect.
Which is your own favoritesong among your own
songs? And which song is the people choice?
AA: Plenty of great songs but I would also name
“Arschlecken” as one of my all-time favorites.
RR: It's not that easy to single out a song. I
like the energy that radiates from the whole
album.
MiMa: Oh, there really isn't one. I actually
like listening to and playing all the songs from
the current album. I can't and don't really want
to highlight any of them. But if you put that
gun to my chest, it's probably “Arschlecken”. If
all goes well, a video will appear in the
spring.
MiMo: My favorite of the new songs is
“Kollateralschaden”. It's just right all around.
Great lyrics, Riggø. The fan base's most
requested title so far has been
“Oi!kalyptusbonbon”, which we're now moving away
from. We're just sick of him.
MiMa: Yes, but it is part of our vita. So, for
better or for worse, we have to play it every
now and then. "Der Schnorrerpar(c)k bei Leipzig"
is also a song that is often requested. But we
don't (can't) play it anymore. Haha.
What´s the biggest difference when you plays
live nowadays if you compare when you first
started to play in a band?
MiMo: I think that the stage fright is not as
high as it was in the early years due to the
growing confidence in the instruments. Concerts
are still fun.
MiMa: Yes, we can handle our instruments better.
Haha. And we're probably more sober.
AA: Seriously? You thought we were sober on
stage?
RR: Since I don't like beer, I'm always sober!
MiMa: That sounds so convincing, you should
become a politician, Riggø!
And have you opinion about punk changed through
the years? What do punk mean to you, only a
musicstyle or a lifestyle?
MiMa: In any case, both are included. However,
this expresses itself differently for everyone,
especially for us within the band. And of course
punk has changed. Like everything in life. Of
course, there are also the purists and the punk
rock police who don't want any change and have
made it their task to meticulously follow the
"punk rock rules" and point them out to others.
Mostly out of the drive not to lose one's own
privileges and to give oneself support.
AA: It is a way of life that doesn't follow the
main rules of society.
RR: A way for me to express myself. Overall, the
two gentlemen have summed it up well.
MiMo: For me, punk rock is a way of life that
has accompanied me since my youth. Like a hobby
that you can't let go of.
What do you know about Sweden? What is typical
Swedish? And what is typical german?
RR: RR: Sweden is definitely on my imaginary
travel list. So far I only know the country from
some reports or crime series. Incredible
scenery.
MiMa: Oh my, I hope I don't come across as
ignorant... IKEA? Kotbullar? Glöck? No,
definitely often good music. Typical German?
Phew, I don't know that either. There are many
regional differences… And because of
punctuality, sense of order and so on… - That's
all gone with today's youth anyway. Haha. No, I
think that a lot of things have really become so
global that you can no longer say exactly. Maybe
that's also a reason why right-wing populist
parties are currently enjoying such success
throughout Europe. But not everything was better
before!
MiMo: In an expression of great astonishment we
often say: “Alter Schwede”. Haha. But yes, wide
landscapes, moody Scandinavian weather and of
course our furnishings from the mentioned
company… Oh yeah and DIE ÄRZTE, a pretty well
known band here in Germany have a song called
"Jag älskar Sverige!".
MiMa: It's pretty funny and has nothing to do
with Sweden at all. Still, he comes to mind.
Have you ever been here? Any good bands from
Sweden that you like?
MiMa: Once with my parents in the early 1990s in
the last century. I don't really remember much
about it. We then took a ferry to Finland. There
was a casino on this one where I played roulette
and even won something. Haha. Apart from that, I
already mentioned that good music comes from
Sweden. At the moment bands like THE BABOON SHOW
or PERKELE are popular in Germany and also in my
country. But I also like the early MANDO DIAO
and of course ABBA.
MiMo: Once on vacation from Denmark to Sweden
over the Øresund Bridge, very nice (and
expensive toll) but then back over the same
bridge with engine damage. Haha. Bands of
course, THE BABOON SHOW.
Your audience when you play live, which type of
people comes, age?
MiMo: Very mixed, from old to young.
But all drunk.
MiMa: I know what you're getting at. Punk is an
outdated youth culture. This is also reflected
in our audience. But surprisingly, younger
people often come to our concerts again and
mostly they like us too. We probably now belong
to the category: "Classics from the 90s".
What´s the best of playing live?
MiMa: Travel, of course. Be on the move. Getting
to know other people and places. Even if there
is often not enough time to experience it all
more intensively. Taste local beers and play
mini golf!
MiMo: Seeing and hearing people's feedback. A
good stage sound is very important to me, so
that I can really immerse myself in our music.
RR: Spending time with the guys, meeting new
people and becoming aware of one or the other
new band.
Please tell me a funny thing which have happened
during a livegig with your band?
MiMa: Oh, there are so many stories that are
probably only funny to us. Outsiders are bound
to ask themselves: What kind of crazy guys are
these... Haha.
MiMo: At an open air event, it started to rain
heavily. The power of the PA system went out. As
a result, we only had electricity and volume on
stage. All the fans came up to us to save
themselves from the rain and we had a mega party
with everyone up there.
Is there any good bands in Germany today? New
bands which is good? Old bands which is still
good?
RR: Recently we played with the guys from SHELL
SHOCKED from Berlin. They blew my mind.
MiMo: I'm still enthusiastic about my role
models, such as DRITTE WAHL, CHEFDENKER or DIE
ÄRZTE with their satirical, funny lyrics. New
bands are always exciting. Above all, I
sometimes have the feeling that they approach
punk in a more professional way. As Riggø
already said...SHELL SHOCKED...
MiMa: Oh, each of us certainly sees it
differently. I personally listen to a lot of
different stuff. I can currently recommend
PASCOW from Saarland. They're bringing out a new
record in January. CHEFDENKER is also highly
recommended, or the "Saxony connection" with THE
MELMACS, THE PISSED ONES, STRG-Z and the
PINOREKS. They all played together at a concert
recently and I wasn't there. Unbelievable! But I
could continue the list forever.
AA: EA 80 and DRITTE WAHL are old bands that are
still good.
Which is the record that you always must have in
the tourbus?
Mi Mo: Desired music is always streamed on the
tour bus. Each inmate is allowed to make a wish.
And there all genres are represented, from
Schlager to Techno to Punk to Goth music.
MiMa: But the driver is in control and is the
one who has his thumb on the music system and
either raises or lowers it. Haha. But in any
case everything HELGE SCHNEIDER. Or MAIK
LEHMANN.
RR: Very good, Mieschka. Now we just need a tour
bus hahahah.
Do you buy much records, or is it only Spotify
and those type of things to listen to music? Is
there any good record shop in your hometown?
MiMa: Unfortunately, I buy far too many records.
I probably won't be able to hear them all
anymore. And I don't have room for it either.
But it's such an incredibly nice feeling to hold
a new record from a great band that you've
discovered for yourself. I live in Berlin myself
and there are still one or the other record shop
there. The rest of the band lives in Frankfurt
(Oder). Unfortunately, as far as I know, there
aren't any more. But since everything is often
only pressed in small editions anyway and
distributed via the Internet, I often order my
records directly from the artists themselves.
Most of the time I also try to get the digital
version of it so that the music can be put on my
phone play and listen on the go. On the other
hand, I don’t use Spotify or other streaming
services at all.
RR: Although I'm not a collector, I buy the
records whenever possible. I've already said
something about the ritual, but it's also about
supporting the respective band.
MiMo: I am not a collector, I stream or only
have treasures in the original version. My money
is more important for other things. Haha.
Which was your first record, the latest you
bought and the most expensive you have bought?
MiMo: I think my first record was DIETER
HALLERVORDEN – “Punker Maria”. Great shit. My
last records have always been my own.
RR: The first record was a single by THE CURE -
Close to me, released on AMIGA. The last one:
Repeater Songs from FUGAZI. I really wanted it
on vinyl.
MiMa: First record: THE PUHDYS – Das Buch, 1984
in Erfurt. Genre: Ostrock! Most Expensive: Oh
my, I think I've spent too much money on Discogs
& eBay quite a few times to get the odd classic
on vinyl that I missed buying when it was fresh.
Be it because I didn't have any money, CDs were
currently in vogue or I didn't know the band
yet. Unfortunately, there was often a much
cheaper re-release afterwards. Haha.
Do you care about reviews? Which is the most
peculiar you ever had, with this band or any
other band you have been to?
MiMa: Oh, I really like reading reviews. It's
all about promotion. I used to take part in a
fanzine myself and also had a small radio show.
This site was also about getting free records
and getting to shows for free. But that also
made a lot possible for me. So I interviewed
some interesting bands, gained experience in the
music business and made contacts that we still
benefit from today.
MiMo: Reviews reflect what listeners feel about
consumption. Yes, I think they are important.
RR: For me it's definitely interesting how other
people react to our music.
If you could choose five bands from the past and
the history and nowadays and both dead and
living bands to have a concert together with
your band. Which five have you been chosen?
MiMa: RAMONES, DOVER, THE BEATLES, PUHDYS and
INKA BAUSE
AA: Joy Division, The Cure, Killing Joke, The
Ruts, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Discharge,
Crass, The Damned, .... - ups, already more than
5.
RR: Ok, we'll do these twelve first and see how
it goes hahahaha.
MiMo: I don't know why, but somehow it doesn't
matter to me.
And if you been paid for do a cover-record with
four songs. Which four songs have you done then?
MiMo: I think we would be a bad cover band. We
better keep our hands off it.
MiMa: Oh, that's not on our agenda right now.
Our live time is often limited and we have
enough good songs of our own, which we can't all
get down. We already did a cover picture 7".
Thank goodness the edition of 100 copies wasn't
that big. It's not particularly good. We still
have a few copies of it.
AA: I agree with Mieschka. We are not a band to
play too many cover versions but love to perform
our own material.
Futureplans for the band? And for yourself?
MiMo: Rock the following concerts in a relaxed
manner, let new songs bubble and spend a lot of
good time together.
MiMa: Oh, we would like to sell our record
first. Hopefully in January we'll make another
new video and next year we'll hopefully play
some nice concerts. Inquiries for this are
always welcome.
Wisdomword?
MiMa: Solomon the Wise speaks - Loud farts don't
stink. But those who hiss so quietly and escape
the ass with cunning, these stink terribly!
MiMo: MIKE LEHMANN once said: "The fart in the
context of its appearance is warm". Gunnar from
the band DRITTE WAHL once said: Life is
beautiful, but people are bad". Both very wise
words :)
Anything more to add to the interview?
MiMa: Thank you for your interest and the
interesting questions. I think we were even able
to learn something new from each other this
time. That doesn't happen often. Maybe we'll see
each other at a concert. Invite us to Sweden. We
also bring cheap(er) beer.
MiMo: Skoll, cheers and thanks!
AA: Cheers Prostman RR: Thanks for your interest. |